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[email protected] (mike korenchuk)

19/11/2003 4:59 AM

Seeking matress ideas for kd bed

Daughter enlisted in military which freed up a bedroom but she's
expected to visit periodically. Would like to build a small
(twin-sized) kd bed to accomodate her when she's home, say, once a
year. Other than Thermarest camping matresses, I'm unaware of
alternatives for space-saving matresses for this project.
Requirements are comfort and compact storage, in that order. I will
look into modern air matresses but am somewhat prejudiced against
them. Has anyone else faced this problem?


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in reply to [email protected] (mike korenchuk) on 19/11/2003 4:59 AM

19/11/2003 9:59 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
mike korenchuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>Daughter enlisted in military which freed up a bedroom but she's
>expected to visit periodically. Would like to build a small
>(twin-sized) kd bed to accomodate her when she's home, say, once a
>year. Other than Thermarest camping matresses, I'm unaware of
>alternatives for space-saving matresses for this project.
>Requirements are comfort and compact storage, in that order. I will
>look into modern air matresses but am somewhat prejudiced against
>them. Has anyone else faced this problem?

The -good- air-inflatables for camping, etc. are quite tolerable. The
ones that are 'full matress' thickness, that is. I've got one sold
by Coleman.

Nn

Nova

in reply to [email protected] (mike korenchuk) on 19/11/2003 4:59 AM

19/11/2003 7:33 PM

mike korenchuk wrote:

> Daughter enlisted in military which freed up a bedroom but she's
> expected to visit periodically. Would like to build a small
> (twin-sized) kd bed to accomodate her when she's home, say, once a
> year. Other than Thermarest camping matresses, I'm unaware of
> alternatives for space-saving matresses for this project.
> Requirements are comfort and compact storage, in that order. I will
> look into modern air matresses but am somewhat prejudiced against
> them. Has anyone else faced this problem?

I've never been keen on air mattresses, but we bought one of the
AeroBed's, for similar reasons, and they're pretty good.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
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The Other James

in reply to [email protected] (mike korenchuk) on 19/11/2003 4:59 AM

20/11/2003 9:22 AM

What kind of a woodworking group is this, anyway? Nobody has suggested
a Murphy bed?

Gs

"George"

in reply to [email protected] (mike korenchuk) on 19/11/2003 4:59 AM

19/11/2003 9:13 AM

Yes, but we've got a daybed to cover that eventuality. Might want to look
into that or a futon if you're using the room as a den.

If not, strongly consider one of the self-inflating air mattresses. I sleep
on mine when I'm on ambulance shift rather than the bunk provided.

Depending on her station, she might just appreciate the home floor and fresh
cookies. Cots and three weeks postage to Iraq.

Nice to see another Ukrainian on the group.

"mike korenchuk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Daughter enlisted in military which freed up a bedroom but she's
> expected to visit periodically. Would like to build a small
> (twin-sized) kd bed to accomodate her when she's home, say, once a
> year. Other than Thermarest camping matresses, I'm unaware of
> alternatives for space-saving matresses for this project.
> Requirements are comfort and compact storage, in that order. I will
> look into modern air matresses but am somewhat prejudiced against
> them. Has anyone else faced this problem?

JT

in reply to "George" on 19/11/2003 9:13 AM

20/11/2003 5:52 AM

Wed, Nov 19, 2003, 9:13am [email protected] (George) says:
<snip> she might just appreciate the home floor and fresh cookies.<snip>

Yep, 3 hots and a cot, used to be the goal to shoot for.

And, if you ever send her homemade cookies, wrap each cookie
individually in saran wrap. That'll keep 'em fresh. I used to get
cookies like that, in Nam, from my mother. Just like they'd been made
the day before. While everyone else got boxes of cookie dust. Those
packages could take weeks to reach me, at times. Cookie were always
moist. Oatmeal rasin were about my favorites.

JOAT
Of course I don't think you're a complete idiot. Some parts are
missing.

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
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Gs

"George"

in reply to "George" on 19/11/2003 9:13 AM

20/11/2003 7:55 AM

Better idea. All in a Ziplock, but in each, a slice of Wonder Bread or such
will all the preservatives. Works great.

Talked with him on IM yesterday, and he got his maple syrup. Says it makes
quite an impression in the chow hall when he pulls out the little jug.

"T." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Wed, Nov 19, 2003, 9:13am [email protected] (George) says:
> <snip> she might just appreciate the home floor and fresh cookies.<snip>
>
> Yep, 3 hots and a cot, used to be the goal to shoot for.
>
> And, if you ever send her homemade cookies, wrap each cookie
> individually in saran wrap. That'll keep 'em fresh. I used to get
> cookies like that, in Nam, from my mother. Just like they'd been made
> the day before. While everyone else got boxes of cookie dust. Those
> packages could take weeks to reach me, at times. Cookie were always
> moist. Oatmeal rasin were about my favorites.
>
> JOAT
> Of course I don't think you're a complete idiot. Some parts are
> missing.
>
> Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
> Web Page Update 20 Nov 2003.
> Some tunes I like.
> http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
>

JT

in reply to "George" on 20/11/2003 7:55 AM

20/11/2003 6:59 PM

Thu, Nov 20, 2003, 7:55am [email protected] (George)
says:
Better idea. All in a Ziplock, but in each, a slice of Wonder Bread or
such will all the preservatives. Works great.

Better? I don't think so. More expensive, you gotta make sure the
ziplock is sealed. And, what's the bread supposed to be for? Something
to feed birds? I've gotten cookies in ziplock bags. Saran wrap is
better.

Talked with him on IM yesterday, and he got his maple syrup. Says it
makes quite an impression in the chow hall when he pulls out the little
jug.

Yeah, I imagine i would make some kind of an impression.

JOAT
Of course I don't think you're a complete idiot. Some parts are
missing.

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 20 Nov 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/

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Andy Dingley

in reply to [email protected] (mike korenchuk) on 19/11/2003 4:59 AM

19/11/2003 3:23 PM

On 19 Nov 2003 04:59:37 -0800, [email protected] (mike korenchuk)
wrote:

>Would like to build a small
>(twin-sized) kd bed to accomodate her when she's home,

How about a fold-out sofa bed ? The mattress is a rollable futon, and
it forms the cushions when in use as a sofa. My favourite design has
a rigid backless frame holding the two ends and the arms apart, the
back and seat are rigid frames that fold downwards with a central
hinge, and the "matttress" is supported on a wire chain-link net. So
long as the net is tensioned adequately (no hammock slump) and the
mattress is a good grade of cotton batting, not foam, then these are
comfortable.

--
Die Gotterspammerung - Junkmail of the Gods

MJ

"Mark Jerde"

in reply to [email protected] (mike korenchuk) on 19/11/2003 4:59 AM

19/11/2003 2:22 PM

mike korenchuk wrote:
> Daughter enlisted in military which freed up a bedroom but she's
> expected to visit periodically. Would like to build a small
> (twin-sized) kd bed to accomodate her when she's home, say, once a
> year. Other than Thermarest camping matresses, I'm unaware of
> alternatives for space-saving matresses for this project.
> Requirements are comfort and compact storage, in that order. I will
> look into modern air matresses but am somewhat prejudiced against
> them. Has anyone else faced this problem?

My son is in Army basic training. I'm making a loft bed out of his twin
bed. SWMBO's sewing stuff is going on a table underneath it. ;-) The
computer that used to be in the living room has already found a new home on
"his" desk.

-- Mark

MD

"Michael Daly"

in reply to [email protected] (mike korenchuk) on 19/11/2003 4:59 AM

19/11/2003 7:23 PM

On 19-Nov-2003, [email protected] (mike korenchuk) wrote:

> Other than Thermarest camping matresses,

I find the Camp Rest size Thermarest to be at least, if not more,
comfortable than my bed (which has a brand name orthopedic mattress).
I know a lot of folks would consider a Thermarest to be a poor
offering, but I don't. I'd rather sleep on one than on most guest
beds. When travelling, I've been known to sleep on a Thermarest
next to the bed in a B&B. YMMV

Mike

Sd

Silvan

in reply to [email protected] (mike korenchuk) on 19/11/2003 4:59 AM

20/11/2003 8:18 AM

Andy Dingley wrote:

> long as the net is tensioned adequately (no hammock slump) and the
> mattress is a good grade of cotton batting, not foam, then these are
> comfortable.

IMHO cotton futons suck. Better to get a sprung model.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
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[email protected] (mike korenchuk)

in reply to [email protected] (mike korenchuk) on 19/11/2003 4:59 AM

19/11/2003 3:48 PM

Nova <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> mike korenchuk wrote:
>
> > Daughter enlisted in military which freed up a bedroom but she's
> > expected to visit periodically. Would like to build a small
> > (twin-sized) kd bed to accomodate her when she's home, say, once a
> > year. Other than Thermarest camping matresses, I'm unaware of
> > alternatives for space-saving matresses for this project.
> > Requirements are comfort and compact storage, in that order. I will
> > look into modern air matresses but am somewhat prejudiced against
> > them. Has anyone else faced this problem?
>
> I've never been keen on air mattresses, but we bought one of the
> AeroBed's, for similar reasons, and they're pretty good.

Thanks for the many great ideas. Upstairs bedroom is too small for a
sofa bed and they're awfully heavy to get up the stairs. With an 8ft
ceiling, I'm wondering about the practicality of the loft idea. Not
too much head room. but I haven't discounted it completely. My wife
likes the aerobed idea and I'm a true believer in Thermarests, one of
which would, I'm sure, fit nicely into a kd frame. And would even
look good too. Thanks again!

JT

in reply to [email protected] (mike korenchuk) on 19/11/2003 3:48 PM

20/11/2003 5:58 AM

Wed, Nov 19, 2003, 3:48pm (EST-3) [email protected]
(mike=A0korenchuk) says:
<snip> With an 8ft ceiling, I'm wondering about the practicality of the
loft idea. Not too much head room. <snip>

If it's made from a bunk bed, ample headroom.

Headroom on the bunks on a troop ship is about a foot. The kid'll
survive a loft bed.

JOAT
Of course I don't think you're a complete idiot. Some parts are
missing.

Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 20 Nov 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/


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