We also supported the Al Queda against Russia.
Where do you think they got all the SAMs?
"Larry Blanchard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> says...
> > For those who haven't heard and are interested, Saddam Hussein was
> > captured yesterday afternoon.
> >
> Let's hope that slows down the "loyalist" attacks.
>
> But while the Bush administration is busily painting horns on him,
> remember that we once supported him. He was fighting Iran and thus
> qualified for the "He may be an SOB but he's our SOB" description.
>
> --
> Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs?
My source for world news - the wRECk!
Ya see, I get up, grab the morning paper, make a cup of coffee and
bagel, and start on the paper. Hour to an hour and a half later, I'm
tired of reading, so I leave the business and comic sections for
later. Fire up the PC, play a couple games, then get on usenet. Last
article on the WrecK is this one from Nova. At first I thought it was
a rigged site, made to look like CNN. But no, WasPost's site
verifies, as does the TV.
Thanx!
Renata
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 15:03:09 GMT, Nova <[email protected]>
wrote:
>For those who haven't heard and are interested, Saddam Hussein was
>captured yesterday afternoon.
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/12/14/sprj.irq.main/index.html
>
>--
>Jack Novak
>Buffalo, NY - USA
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>
>
Now maybe the general Iraqi population will feel more confidant about him
not coming back and get on with setting up a new regime. I hope it saves a
few lives of soldiers there at present.
Greg
"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> For those who haven't heard and are interested, Saddam Hussein was
> captured yesterday afternoon.
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/12/14/sprj.irq.main/index.html
>
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA
> (Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
>
>
Renata wrote:
> Ya see, I get up, grab the morning paper, make a cup of coffee and
> bagel, and start on the paper. Hour to an hour and a half later, I'm
Feh. I get the paper, skim the front page, turn to the comics... Read the
comics, do the "find six differences between these two pictures," then toss
it to the side.
SWMBO takes out the 483 pages of coupons, then meticulously clips and sorts
them. I have no patience for going to that much trouble to save a quarter
here and twenty cents there, but she saves us more than enough to pay for
the comics.
(We only get the Sunday paper...)
(I get most of my news from the BBC World Service, by way of NPR, whenever
I'm in a market with a good NPR station, which basically means anywhere
south of here. The local affiliate sucks.)
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<Sigh> There was mention on this mornings news was that the tales of
dozens of "doubles" were just that. Stories. Intelligence never really
believed they existed.
Jim H
"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I sure hope it really is him, not on of his paid body doubles. Kind of
> hard to believe that with all of his money, he was dug into the dirt
> like a rat.
>
> Nova wrote:
>
> > For those who haven't heard and are interested, Saddam Hussein was
> > captured yesterday afternoon.
> >
> > http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/12/14/sprj.irq.main/index.html
> >
> > --
> > Jack Novak
> > Buffalo, NY - USA
> > (Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
> >
> >
>
On 2003/12/14 1:26 PM, "Zeke Redner" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Larry Blanchard <[email protected]> wrote in news:bri6k9$3ho8s$3@ID-
> 124996.news.uni-berlin.de:
>
>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>> says...
>>> For those who haven't heard and are interested, Saddam Hussein was
>>> captured yesterday afternoon.
>>>
>> Let's hope that slows down the "loyalist" attacks.
>>
>> But while the Bush administration is busily painting horns on him,
>> remember that we once supported him. He was fighting Iran and thus
>> qualified for the "He may be an SOB but he's our SOB" description.
>>
>
> You must be the liberal of the bunch.
He may be a liberal but he is not alone in that regard.
However, that does not change the fact that the US has a poor track record
in picking our allies or consistently supporting them. This has been true of
administrations from both sides of the fence. When we support a dictator for
short term gains even though we know that he is a "bad hat," we run the risk
of creating enemy that we have to deal with later.
In article <[email protected]>, "ddi" <[email protected]> wrote:
>We also supported the Al Queda against Russia.
>Where do you think they got all the SAMs?
>
Try again. We supported the Afghan mujaheddin against the Russians. Al Qaida
is composed principally of Saudis, and derives most of its financing from
Saudi sources. They moved into Afghanistan after Saudi Arabia and a few other
nations kicked them out, but that was *long* after the Russians left.
--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?
J.B. Bobbitt wrote:
> ONE insightful news agency suggests that he wasn't "in hiding". Instead, he
> was "held captive" and bartered to the USA. Some facts of his "capture" fit
> the interpretation. Maybe we'll never know.
>
> -JBB
>
>
>
Take anything you see on this Israeli news site with a big
grain of salt, but sometimes they get it right.
http://www.debka.com/
Did they get it right this time? The story kind of fits.
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Larry Blanchard <[email protected]> wrote in news:bri6k9$3ho8s$3@ID-
124996.news.uni-berlin.de:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> says...
>> For those who haven't heard and are interested, Saddam Hussein was
>> captured yesterday afternoon.
>>
> Let's hope that slows down the "loyalist" attacks.
>
> But while the Bush administration is busily painting horns on him,
> remember that we once supported him. He was fighting Iran and thus
> qualified for the "He may be an SOB but he's our SOB" description.
>
You must be the liberal of the bunch.
Zeke
Nova <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> For those who haven't heard and are interested, Saddam Hussein was
> captured yesterday afternoon.
>
Hopefully the USA can now turn it's attention to capturing Bay Area
Dave. We must rid the world of this infection!!!
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> For those who haven't heard and are interested, Saddam Hussein was
> captured yesterday afternoon.
>
Let's hope that slows down the "loyalist" attacks.
But while the Bush administration is busily painting horns on him,
remember that we once supported him. He was fighting Iran and thus
qualified for the "He may be an SOB but he's our SOB" description.
--
Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs?
"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I sure hope it really is him, not on of his paid body doubles. Kind of
> hard to believe that with all of his money, he was dug into the dirt
> like a rat.
It's him. News just a littyle while ago confirmed DNA match.
Nahmie
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> [email protected] (Charlie Self) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> >
> > Hope it gets handled right, though I'll be dipped if I know whether it's better
> > to bring him to trial and shoot or hang him or bring him to trial and do
> > something else...one thing that needs doing is making sure he doesn't become a
> > martyr.
> >
>
> One hopes that a public trial will make it clear that he has murdered
> more muslims in the last two decades than everyone else in the world
> combined. That should put the martyrdom issue to rest but you never
> know.
>
> Bin Laden, if we ever kill or capture him, indeed, if we ever get
> back to even trying,
You either don't pay attention to the news or only have the attention
span for a single front. There have been several reports regarding
operations attempting to locate Bin Laden along the Afhgan/Pakistan
border.
> will be a more likely candidate for marytdom.
> Mind you, the sooner he's martyred, the better.
>
>
Nahmie responds:
>
>"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I sure hope it really is him, not on of his paid body doubles. Kind of
>> hard to believe that with all of his money, he was dug into the dirt
>> like a rat.
>
>It's him. News just a littyle while ago confirmed DNA match.
With a 14 hour lapse between catch and news releases, I figured they were well
on the way to proving who he was before the first TV camera rolled.
Hope it gets handled right, though I'll be dipped if I know whether it's better
to bring him to trial and shoot or hang him or bring him to trial and do
something else...one thing that needs doing is making sure he doesn't become a
martyr.
Charlie Self
"Man is a reasoning rather than a reasonable animal."
Alexander Hamilton
http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Nahmie responds:
>
> >
> >"Mark" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> I sure hope it really is him, not on of his paid body doubles. Kind of
> >> hard to believe that with all of his money, he was dug into the dirt
> >> like a rat.
> >
> >It's him. News just a littyle while ago confirmed DNA match.
>
> With a 14 hour lapse between catch and news releases, I figured they were well
> on the way to proving who he was before the first TV camera rolled.
>
> Hope it gets handled right, though I'll be dipped if I know whether it's better
> to bring him to trial and shoot or hang him or bring him to trial and do
> something else...one thing that needs doing is making sure he doesn't become a
> martyr.
>
... or a dictator in exile with a chance of coming back someday.
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Fred the Red Shirt) wrote:
>Bin Laden, if we ever kill or capture him, indeed, if we ever get
>back to even trying, will be a more likely candidate for marytdom.
>Mind you, the sooner he's martyred, the better.
IMO, he's probably dead already, been dead six months or more, and the
American military knows it. But we ain't saying we know it, precisely because
we don't want to make a martyr of him.
--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?
[email protected] (Charlie Self) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
> Hope it gets handled right, though I'll be dipped if I know whether it's better
> to bring him to trial and shoot or hang him or bring him to trial and do
> something else...one thing that needs doing is making sure he doesn't become a
> martyr.
>
One hopes that a public trial will make it clear that he has murdered
more muslims in the last two decades than everyone else in the world
combined. That should put the martyrdom issue to rest but you never
know.
Bin Laden, if we ever kill or capture him, indeed, if we ever get
back to even trying, will be a more likely candidate for marytdom.
Mind you, the sooner he's martyred, the better.
--
FF
Fredfighter writes:
>Bin Laden, if we ever kill or capture him, indeed, if we ever get
>back to even trying, will be a more likely candidate for marytdom.
>Mind you, the sooner he's martyred, the better.
Yes, well I'm still pretty much of the opinion that he became a coat of rather
sticky paint on a cave roof a long time ago, but maybe that's wishful thinking.
Charlie Self
"Man is a reasoning rather than a reasonable animal."
Alexander Hamilton
http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html
[email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote in message news:<bd8Db.16311$P%[email protected]>...
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Fred the Red Shirt) wrote:
>
> >Bin Laden, if we ever kill or capture him, indeed, if we ever get
> >back to even trying, will be a more likely candidate for marytdom.
> >Mind you, the sooner he's martyred, the better.
>
> IMO, he's probably dead already, been dead six months or more, and the
> American military knows it. But we ain't saying we know it, precisely because
> we don't want to make a martyr of him.
Hmm, got anything you want to share that leads you to think so?
--
FF
Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>
> > Bin Laden, if we ever kill or capture him, indeed, if we ever get
> > back to even trying,
>
> You either don't pay attention to the news or only have the attention
> span for a single front. There have been several reports regarding
> operations attempting to locate Bin Laden along the Afhgan/Pakistan
> border.
>
Well you caught me in an exaggeration. Though it is indisputible
that the invasion of Iraq has diestracted the bulk of our miltary
from the war against Al queda and Bin Laden you are correct, it
was not abandoned altogether.
We had marines in the Horn of Africa looking for AL Queda cells
who were tranfered to Iraq for the war.
--
FF
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Fred the Red Shirt) wrote:
>[email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote in message
> news:<bd8Db.16311$P%[email protected]>...
>> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (Fred the Red Shirt) wrote:
>>
>> >Bin Laden, if we ever kill or capture him, indeed, if we ever get
>> >back to even trying, will be a more likely candidate for marytdom.
>> >Mind you, the sooner he's martyred, the better.
>>
>> IMO, he's probably dead already, been dead six months or more, and the
>> American military knows it. But we ain't saying we know it, precisely because
>> we don't want to make a martyr of him.
>
>Hmm, got anything you want to share that leads you to think so?
>
He's been pretty quiet for a long time. And I can't see any way in which it
benefits the US _right_now_ to publicize his death or capture. All I see are
negatives: if he's been captured, and we admit it, the inevitable result is an
effort to free him, either by terrorist blackmail or by a direct assault on
the place where he's being held. If we acknowledge publicly that we've killed
him, I foresee a great increase in terrorist attacks against American
interests around the world.
It seems to me that it works to our benefit to have the CIA publicly
authenticate the various bin Laden video- and audiotapes, even (or especially)
if they're sure it's *not* him. It's surely to our interest to have our
adversaries think they have deceived us, while we continue to gather
information about their activities and whereabouts.
I think it's quite possible that we've had him, or his corpse, in custody for
a long time, and we're waiting for the right moment to announce it. Just MHO,
and I guess we'll see eventually if my conjecture is right.
--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?
Charlie Self wrote:
> Hope it gets handled right, though I'll be dipped if I know whether it's
> better to bring him to trial and shoot or hang him or bring him to trial
> and do something else...one thing that needs doing is making sure he
> doesn't become a martyr.
Best idea yet. Put his ass to WORK. He needs to earn, what, $170 billion
now?
--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
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Doug Miller wrote:
> I think it's quite possible that we've had him, or his corpse, in custody
> for a long time, and we're waiting for the right moment to announce it.
> Just MHO, and I guess we'll see eventually if my conjecture is right.
Osama and Hitler are trying to figure out how to get Elvis to squeal like a
pig, down in Argentina. Everybody knows that.
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> Larry Blanchard <[email protected]> wrote in news:bri6k9$3ho8s$3@ID-
> 124996.news.uni-berlin.de:
>
> > But while the Bush administration is busily painting horns on him,
> > remember that we once supported him. He was fighting Iran and thus
> > qualified for the "He may be an SOB but he's our SOB" description.
> >
>
> You must be the liberal of the bunch.
>
Mostly I'm the cynic :-).
--
Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs?
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> We also supported the Al Queda against Russia.
> Where do you think they got all the SAMs?
>
Yep! We're batting a thousand. Every time we arm an SOB, he/she/they/it
eventually turn the weapons on us.
--
Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs?
>
> But while the Bush administration is busily painting horns on him,
> remember that we once supported him. He was fighting Iran and thus
> qualified for the "He may be an SOB but he's our SOB" description.
Ya'know, I hear this silliness a lot. Even my two year old knows that if
she makes a mess,
she's the one responsible for cleaning it up. Even if you buy the notion
that we armed Saddam (we didn't),
it's still incumbent upon us to take care of him and the problems he's
caused.
Steve
In article <m%[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> ONE insightful news agency suggests that he wasn't "in hiding". Instead, he
> was "held captive" and bartered to the USA. Some facts of his "capture" fit
> the interpretation. Maybe we'll never know.
>
Care to share that source?
... and the left accuses the right of bizarre conspiracy theories?
Some of the speculation I have heard today would make a John Bircher
blush.
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> We also supported the Al Queda against Russia.
> Where do you think they got all the SAMs?
>
A) Al Queida was not around during the Soviet Afghan campaign
B) The SAMS (actually MANPADS, but we'll spot you that one)being
encountered are RUSSIAN MANPADS, not Stingers (US version). US supplied
Stingers to Afghan rebels. i.e., they didn't get them from the US.
> "Larry Blanchard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> > says...
> > > For those who haven't heard and are interested, Saddam Hussein was
> > > captured yesterday afternoon.
> > >
> > Let's hope that slows down the "loyalist" attacks.
> >
> > But while the Bush administration is busily painting horns on him,
> > remember that we once supported him. He was fighting Iran and thus
> > qualified for the "He may be an SOB but he's our SOB" description.
> >
> > --
> > Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs?
>
>
>
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 19:16:14 -0600, "Steve Kreitler"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Even if you buy the notion that we armed Saddam (we didn't),
Yeah, sorry - that was us.
Rick wrote:
> The fat lady is finally beginning to warm up her voice.
Gotta love that writing. "Hiding in a hidden hole."
Is this a hoax? Probably even if it's not a hoax, and DNA testing proves
it's him, and they string him up and put his head on a pike, people will
still say he's down in Argentina having butt orgies with Hitler and Elvis
for the next century or two.
--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
It seems doubtful that that beaten old man was capable of leading
anything. Will the attacks slacken? Hope so, but doubt it.
mahalo,
jo4hn
Mark wrote:
> I sure hope it really is him, not on of his paid body doubles. Kind of
> hard to believe that with all of his money, he was dug into the dirt
> like a rat.
>[snip]
"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Care to share that source?
See Rico's post above.
Only, take it with LOT'S of grains of salt. I agree, sometiems they nail
it.
-JBB
I sure hope it really is him, not on of his paid body doubles. Kind of
hard to believe that with all of his money, he was dug into the dirt
like a rat.
Nova wrote:
> For those who haven't heard and are interested, Saddam Hussein was
> captured yesterday afternoon.
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/12/14/sprj.irq.main/index.html
>
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA
> (Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
>
>
The fat lady is finally beginning to warm up her voice.
Rick
"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> For those who haven't heard and are interested, Saddam Hussein was
> captured yesterday afternoon.
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/12/14/sprj.irq.main/index.html
>
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA
> (Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
>
>
Larry Blanchard <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>says...
>> For those who haven't heard and are interested, Saddam Hussein was
>> captured yesterday afternoon.
>>
>Let's hope that slows down the "loyalist" attacks.
>
>But while the Bush administration is busily painting horns on him,
>remember that we once supported him. He was fighting Iran and thus
>qualified for the "He may be an SOB but he's our SOB" description.
>
>--
>Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs?
I'm hoping that he tells us where those WMD's are or WTF he was
thinking screwing with the inspection crews.
Wes
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Now about that grassy knoll and the lone gunman.
"Rico" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> J.B. Bobbitt wrote:
> > ONE insightful news agency suggests that he wasn't "in hiding".
Instead, he
> > was "held captive" and bartered to the USA. Some facts of his "capture"
fit
> > the interpretation. Maybe we'll never know.
> >
> > -JBB
> >
> >
> >
> Take anything you see on this Israeli news site with a big
> grain of salt, but sometimes they get it right.
>
> http://www.debka.com/
>
> Did they get it right this time? The story kind of fits.
>
>
>
>
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Maybe the "article" will explain why his 'captors' allowed him a side arm. .
.
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"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <m%[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
> > ONE insightful news agency suggests that he wasn't "in hiding".
Instead, he
> > was "held captive" and bartered to the USA. Some facts of his "capture"
fit
> > the interpretation. Maybe we'll never know.
> >
>
> Care to share that source?
>
> ... and the left accuses the right of bizarre conspiracy theories?
> Some of the speculation I have heard today would make a John Bircher
> blush.