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"nireedmot"

11/12/2004 6:23 AM

How can I know how straight a jointed edge is?

Once I've jointed an edge, I'd like to know that there are no hills or
valleys in the edge over the length of the board. For example, it's
hard for me to know if there's a concavity a 16th deep if it's spread
out over half of an 8' board. How can I tell how straight an 8' edge is
without an 8' straightedge?

-Tom


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in reply to "nireedmot" on 11/12/2004 6:23 AM

12/12/2004 7:55 AM


"nireedmot" <[email protected]> wrote

: Once I've jointed an edge, I'd like to know that there are no hills or
: valleys in the edge over the length of the board. For example, it's
: hard for me to know if there's a concavity a 16th deep if it's spread
: out over half of an 8' board. How can I tell how straight an 8' edge is
: without an 8' straightedge?

A very sensitive spirit level will do the trick.

Jeff G

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Pn

Phisherman

in reply to "nireedmot" on 11/12/2004 6:23 AM

11/12/2004 4:41 PM

On 11 Dec 2004 06:23:16 -0800, "nireedmot" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Once I've jointed an edge, I'd like to know that there are no hills or
>valleys in the edge over the length of the board. For example, it's
>hard for me to know if there's a concavity a 16th deep if it's spread
>out over half of an 8' board. How can I tell how straight an 8' edge is
>without an 8' straightedge?
>
>-Tom

Sighting down the board is probably the easiest method, although not
quantitative. Winding sticks are also useful. You could also use a
laser. A board can be out-of-whack in other ways too: cup, bow,
crook, and twist. A well-tuned long-bed jointer should give you a
straight edge.

Gg

"George"

in reply to "nireedmot" on 11/12/2004 6:23 AM

11/12/2004 12:32 PM

Back to the reality that two edges to be joined need only be complementary.
Then there's the reality that 1/16 inch is clamp closeable over three feet.

"Rumpty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Buy a long straight edge, but then you are subject to the slave labor in
> china that makes the straight edge. Or do as the rest of us do, sight
down
> your jointed edge to check. Also place against the other piece to be
joined
> and you'll see any problems.

> "nireedmot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Once I've jointed an edge, I'd like to know that there are no hills or
> > valleys in the edge over the length of the board. For example, it's
> > hard for me to know if there's a concavity a 16th deep if it's spread
> > out over half of an 8' board. How can I tell how straight an 8' edge is
> > without an 8' straightedge?
> >
> > -Tom
> >
>
>

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "nireedmot" on 11/12/2004 6:23 AM

11/12/2004 9:02 AM

"nireedmot" wrote in message

> Once I've jointed an edge, I'd like to know that there are no hills or
> valleys in the edge over the length of the board. For example, it's
> hard for me to know if there's a concavity a 16th deep if it's spread
> out over half of an 8' board. How can I tell how straight an 8' edge is
> without an 8' straightedge?

Often, you can just sight down it with a practiced eye, Or, lacking that,
there is generally a surface in your shop that is "flat" (a relative term),
i.e, your table saw top, a bench top made "flat" (a relative term) for the
purpose, a wing of a jointer, a factory cut plywood edge, etc, that can be
used for comparison.

Flat enough is relative, and generally perfect enough for woodworking.

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"Rumpty"

in reply to "nireedmot" on 11/12/2004 6:23 AM

11/12/2004 9:53 AM

Buy a long straight edge, but then you are subject to the slave labor in
china that makes the straight edge. Or do as the rest of us do, sight down
your jointed edge to check. Also place against the other piece to be joined
and you'll see any problems.

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Rumpty

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"nireedmot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Once I've jointed an edge, I'd like to know that there are no hills or
> valleys in the edge over the length of the board. For example, it's
> hard for me to know if there's a concavity a 16th deep if it's spread
> out over half of an 8' board. How can I tell how straight an 8' edge is
> without an 8' straightedge?
>
> -Tom
>

JB

Jim Behning

in reply to "nireedmot" on 11/12/2004 6:23 AM

11/12/2004 3:47 PM

Stretch a piece of colored monofilament fishing line?

If you cannot see it how would it matter?

If you are edge glueing 2 pieces together then hold the 2 together
looking for gaps.

"nireedmot" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Once I've jointed an edge, I'd like to know that there are no hills or
>valleys in the edge over the length of the board. For example, it's
>hard for me to know if there's a concavity a 16th deep if it's spread
>out over half of an 8' board. How can I tell how straight an 8' edge is
>without an 8' straightedge?
>
>-Tom

RS

"Rick Samuel"

in reply to "nireedmot" on 11/12/2004 6:23 AM

11/12/2004 2:00 PM

One thing that works, trace the edge on whatever paper you have. Rotate the
board axially and compare edges. Any error is now 2 times as great.

md

mac davis

in reply to "nireedmot" on 11/12/2004 6:23 AM

11/12/2004 5:49 PM

On 11 Dec 2004 06:23:16 -0800, "nireedmot" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Once I've jointed an edge, I'd like to know that there are no hills or
>valleys in the edge over the length of the board. For example, it's
>hard for me to know if there's a concavity a 16th deep if it's spread
>out over half of an 8' board. How can I tell how straight an 8' edge is
>without an 8' straightedge?
>
>-Tom

I use my bench... if that isn't flat enough, I use the cement garage
floor..
If you need a higher level of accuracy, build an 8' outfeed table for
your jointer... *g*

kb

klaatu

in reply to "nireedmot" on 11/12/2004 6:23 AM

20/12/2004 5:32 PM

On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 07:55:33 -0000, "POP_Server=pop.clara.net"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"nireedmot" <[email protected]> wrote
>
>: Once I've jointed an edge, I'd like to know that there are no hills or
>: valleys in the edge over the length of the board. For example, it's
>: hard for me to know if there's a concavity a 16th deep if it's spread
>: out over half of an 8' board. How can I tell how straight an 8' edge is
>: without an 8' straightedge?
>
>A very sensitive spirit level will do the trick.
>
>Jeff G
That is the most accurate. This is how they make those huge machines
flat. It takes longer than other methods, but works. Just use a level
that is calibrated and write down the numbers as you move it along.
Once you have a good straight board, keep it upright in a dry area to
use as your standard. Check it once in awhile.
BTW, you can also plot a large panel this way.

DD

David

in reply to "nireedmot" on 11/12/2004 6:23 AM

11/12/2004 10:20 AM

Hold the board up to an identically jointed board; there should be
little or no daylight visible between the two.

David

mac davis wrote:
> On 11 Dec 2004 06:23:16 -0800, "nireedmot" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Once I've jointed an edge, I'd like to know that there are no hills or
>>valleys in the edge over the length of the board. For example, it's
>>hard for me to know if there's a concavity a 16th deep if it's spread
>>out over half of an 8' board. How can I tell how straight an 8' edge is
>>without an 8' straightedge?
>>
>>-Tom
>
>
> I use my bench... if that isn't flat enough, I use the cement garage
> floor..
> If you need a higher level of accuracy, build an 8' outfeed table for
> your jointer... *g*
>

Jj

John

in reply to "nireedmot" on 11/12/2004 6:23 AM

12/12/2004 1:26 PM

Joint 2 8ft pieces, flip one over and butt up the jointed edges
together, If they are NOT flat, it will show up like a sore thumb

John

On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 09:53:07 -0500, "Rumpty" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Buy a long straight edge, but then you are subject to the slave labor in
>china that makes the straight edge. Or do as the rest of us do, sight down
>your jointed edge to check. Also place against the other piece to be joined
>and you'll see any problems.


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