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[email protected] (Drew Eckhardt)

08/04/2005 2:01 PM

Delta 17-965 drill press extreme vibration

I bought a Delta 17-965 16.5" drill press, put it together, and am experiencing
unacceptable vibration (the head shakes, the table shakes, everything shakes)
that didn't exist on the cheap Craftsman some electrical engineers put in
lab space I shared.

Belt tension makes some change but does not appreciably reduce it. With the
belts off there's a tiny amount from the motor. The belts are oval shaped as
shipped but don't seem to have a real set. Regardless of belt tension the
idler pulley bounces arround a lot. A straight edge across the pulleys shows
the spindle and motor pulleys are level but the idler pully is significantly
(1/4"?) below them. I have not yet put a dial indicator on anything to
look for runout.

Help!

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This topic has 8 replies

w

in reply to [email protected] (Drew Eckhardt) on 08/04/2005 2:01 PM

08/04/2005 1:51 PM

I steer you toward the link belt. Go to the link belt... gooo..... I
could not balance a nickel on my TS and the motor would bob up and down
violently- I put a link belt on and viola- no more vibration. I can now
start, run, and stop the saw with a nickel balanced on its edge. Im
sure a dime would work too. Goooo to the link belt....

Td

"Teamcasa"

in reply to [email protected] (Drew Eckhardt) on 08/04/2005 2:01 PM

08/04/2005 1:27 PM


"Drew Eckhardt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I bought a Delta 17-965 16.5" drill press, put it together, and am
>experiencing
> unacceptable vibration (the head shakes, the table shakes, everything
> shakes)
> that didn't exist on the cheap Craftsman some electrical engineers put in
> lab space I shared.
>
> Belt tension makes some change but does not appreciably reduce it. With
> the
> belts off there's a tiny amount from the motor. The belts are oval shaped
> as
> shipped but don't seem to have a real set. Regardless of belt tension the
> idler pulley bounces arround a lot. A straight edge across the pulleys
> shows
> the spindle and motor pulleys are level but the idler pully is
> significantly
> (1/4"?) below them. I have not yet put a dial indicator on anything to
> look for runout.
>
> Help!
>

The vibration is, more than likely the belt. Some new machines are coming
with an import belt that is just too stiff. Some would steer you to a link
belt however, I would either let the one you have run at high speed for a
while or replace it with a new regular automotive v-belt.


Dave



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Td

"TeamCasa"

in reply to [email protected] (Drew Eckhardt) on 08/04/2005 2:01 PM

11/04/2005 8:11 PM


"Drew Eckhardt"
> Auto shop V-belts changed the sounds some but did not reduce vibration
> appreciably from what I had with the included belts.
>
> With a link belt nothing knocks or rattles and the vibration is only a
> little
> worse than with just the motor running without belts installed. This is
> useable (nothing walks off the table) but still seems excessive.
>
> I need some frame of reference as to what's expected...

Your DP should not have any significant vibration. My Delta 17-968 does not
have any vibration at all. Check for bent pulleys or shafts.

Dave



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"TOM"

in reply to [email protected] (Drew Eckhardt) on 08/04/2005 2:01 PM

10/04/2005 3:18 PM

I just measured my 17-965, and the idler pulley is 3/32" lower than the
other
two, it runs very smoothly. I agree with the other posters it's not likely
to be
the problem. If the drill press is new call Delta.

-- Tom



"Drew Eckhardt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I bought a Delta 17-965 16.5" drill press, put it together, and am
>experiencing
> unacceptable vibration (the head shakes, the table shakes, everything
> shakes)
> that didn't exist on the cheap Craftsman some electrical engineers put in
> lab space I shared.
>
> Belt tension makes some change but does not appreciably reduce it. With
> the
> belts off there's a tiny amount from the motor. The belts are oval shaped
> as
> shipped but don't seem to have a real set. Regardless of belt tension the
> idler pulley bounces arround a lot. A straight edge across the pulleys
> shows
> the spindle and motor pulleys are level but the idler pully is
> significantly
> (1/4"?) below them. I have not yet put a dial indicator on anything to
> look for runout.
>
> Help!
>
> --
> <a href="http://www.poohsticks.org/drew/">Home Page</a>
> In 1913 the inflation adjusted (in 2003 dollars) exemption for single
> people
> was $54,567, married couples' exemption $72,756, the next $363,783 was
> taxed
> at 1%, and earnings over $9,094,578 were taxed at the top rate of 7%.

Pg

Patriarch

in reply to [email protected] (Drew Eckhardt) on 08/04/2005 2:01 PM

11/04/2005 10:09 PM

[email protected] (Drew Eckhardt) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> In article <[email protected]>, Teamcasa <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>The vibration is, more than likely the belt. Some new machines are
>>coming with an import belt that is just too stiff. Some would steer
>>you to a link belt however, I would either let the one you have run at
>>high speed for a while or replace it with a new regular automotive
>>v-belt.
>
> Auto shop V-belts changed the sounds some but did not reduce vibration
> appreciably from what I had with the included belts.
>
> With a link belt nothing knocks or rattles and the vibration is only a
> little worse than with just the motor running without belts installed.
> This is useable (nothing walks off the table) but still seems
> excessive.
>
> I need some frame of reference as to what's expected...

/rant mode on

Will you please just call Delta? Your machine is performing a lot worse
than the same model I bought a year ago. There was, I believe, a string of
vibration problems that Delta knew about, and fixed. Since mine worked
just fine, I put the info into the 'don't worry about it' category.

How many hours are you going to put into a $400 drill press?

/rant mode off

Patriarch

I feel better know.

dD

[email protected] (Drew Eckhardt)

in reply to [email protected] (Drew Eckhardt) on 08/04/2005 2:01 PM

11/04/2005 8:01 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Teamcasa <[email protected]> wrote:
>The vibration is, more than likely the belt. Some new machines are coming
>with an import belt that is just too stiff. Some would steer you to a link
>belt however, I would either let the one you have run at high speed for a
>while or replace it with a new regular automotive v-belt.

Auto shop V-belts changed the sounds some but did not reduce vibration
appreciably from what I had with the included belts.

With a link belt nothing knocks or rattles and the vibration is only a little
worse than with just the motor running without belts installed. This is
useable (nothing walks off the table) but still seems excessive.

I need some frame of reference as to what's expected...
--
<a href="http://www.poohsticks.org/drew/">Home Page</a>
In 1913 the inflation adjusted (in 2003 dollars) exemption for single people
was $54,567, married couples' exemption $72,756, the next $363,783 was taxed
at 1%, and earnings over $9,094,578 were taxed at the top rate of 7%.

DD

David

in reply to [email protected] (Drew Eckhardt) on 08/04/2005 2:01 PM

08/04/2005 1:53 PM

I agree with Dave that the belt would be the first suspect. I've got
the same model; it runs smoothly.


Dave

Drew Eckhardt wrote:

> I bought a Delta 17-965 16.5" drill press, put it together, and am experiencing
> unacceptable vibration (the head shakes, the table shakes, everything shakes)
> that didn't exist on the cheap Craftsman some electrical engineers put in
> lab space I shared.
>
> Belt tension makes some change but does not appreciably reduce it. With the
> belts off there's a tiny amount from the motor. The belts are oval shaped as
> shipped but don't seem to have a real set. Regardless of belt tension the
> idler pulley bounces arround a lot. A straight edge across the pulleys shows
> the spindle and motor pulleys are level but the idler pully is significantly
> (1/4"?) below them. I have not yet put a dial indicator on anything to
> look for runout.
>
> Help!
>

Cc

"Clint"

in reply to [email protected] (Drew Eckhardt) on 08/04/2005 2:01 PM

09/04/2005 12:26 AM

You can check out this thread, might be relevant:
http://www.workshopbuzz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3471

Clint

"Drew Eckhardt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I bought a Delta 17-965 16.5" drill press, put it together, and am
>experiencing
> unacceptable vibration (the head shakes, the table shakes, everything
> shakes)
> that didn't exist on the cheap Craftsman some electrical engineers put in
> lab space I shared.
>
> Belt tension makes some change but does not appreciably reduce it. With
> the
> belts off there's a tiny amount from the motor. The belts are oval shaped
> as
> shipped but don't seem to have a real set. Regardless of belt tension the
> idler pulley bounces arround a lot. A straight edge across the pulleys
> shows
> the spindle and motor pulleys are level but the idler pully is
> significantly
> (1/4"?) below them. I have not yet put a dial indicator on anything to
> look for runout.
>
> Help!
>
> --
> <a href="http://www.poohsticks.org/drew/">Home Page</a>
> In 1913 the inflation adjusted (in 2003 dollars) exemption for single
> people
> was $54,567, married couples' exemption $72,756, the next $363,783 was
> taxed
> at 1%, and earnings over $9,094,578 were taxed at the top rate of 7%.


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