The following msg came in today in reply to my inquiry of May 28th:
"Your order shipped on 5/25/04. Please allow 14 business days for delivery."
I realize it is a long way from HF in California to Alabama, but I wonder by which
method my order will come. A slow pony express? Perhaps by mule train. Oh well, it
was my first and last order to them. I just hope it arrives unbroken.
Hoyt W.
Hoyt Weathers <[email protected]> wrote:
: The following msg came in today in reply to my inquiry of May 28th:
: "Your order shipped on 5/25/04. Please allow 14 business days for delivery."
: I realize it is a long way from HF in California to Alabama, but I wonder by which
: method my order will come. A slow pony express? Perhaps by mule train. Oh well, it
: was my first and last order to them. I just hope it arrives unbroken.
: Hoyt W.
Just out of curiousity, why didn't you go to one of their retail stores?
"Puff Griffis" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Why don't you give it a rest . What I said was the truth. Why you don't accept it as the truth I don't know
I don't know why he doesn't accept it as the truth either. I would
_guess_ that the reason might be that this "truth" was only stated on
a newsgroup by someone he did not know, that it was claimed without
substantiation, that it ran counter to his own experience, and that a
suggestion of providing more data or substantiation was refused.
Just a guess, mind you, but that would be why _I_ wouldn't believe
something under those circumstances. ;-)
--
Alex
Make the obvious change in the return address to reply by email.
On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 01:45:24 GMT, Bruce <[email protected]> wrote:
> In rec.woodworking
>
> What is ridiculous is 14 business days for shipping when it is VERY
> economical to ship UPS which is guaranteed in 5 business days or USPS
> Priority Mail which is equally economical and is guaranteed 3 business
> days.
Doesn't UPS have a 70 or 75 pound weight limit?
Order from them usually take a couple weeks or better. I never order/buy
from them anymore. For one most of their stuff is crap and secondly they
have a store near me now where I can get my nitrile gloves. Though I'm
kind of a hypocrite since I just ordered a Quincy compressor from them, but
Quincy is shipping it not HF.
Hoyt Weathers wrote:
> The following msg came in today in reply to my inquiry of May 28th:
>
> "Your order shipped on 5/25/04. Please allow 14 business days for
> delivery."
>
> I realize it is a long way from HF in California to Alabama, but I wonder
> by which method my order will come. A slow pony express? Perhaps by mule
> train. Oh well, it was my first and last order to them. I just hope it
> arrives unbroken.
>
> Hoyt W.
Hi,
What is it that you ordered. Was it something
big enough or heavy enough that UPS would not
handle it and thus is coming via motor freight?
Thanks
Roger
Hoyt Weathers wrote:
>
> The following msg came in today in reply to my inquiry of May 28th:
>
> "Your order shipped on 5/25/04. Please allow 14 business days for delivery."
>
> I realize it is a long way from HF in California to Alabama, but I wonder by which
> method my order will come. A slow pony express? Perhaps by mule train. Oh well, it
> was my first and last order to them. I just hope it arrives unbroken.
>
> Hoyt W.
In rec.woodworking
DJ Delorie <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>I've had UPS orders just sit in a warehouse for a few days waiting for
>their turn in a truck. Why? Because I didn't want to pay for higher
>priority shipping. HF may *guarantee* it's there in 14 days or less,
>doesn't mean it *will* take all 14 days. One company I order from,
>same priority shipping, arrives the next morning. It depends on what
>else is going that way.
>
>All shipping companies are that way. If you want a faster guaranteed
>delivery date, pay for it.
>
>Of course, you should be able to get tracking information from HF so
>you can find out where your order is and the ETA for it from the
>shipping company.
The absolute SLOWEST delivery method by UPS is UPS Ground and it is
GUARANTEED in 5 business days. The 14 business day thing by HF is complete
bullshit. I agree with someone else that surmised they're living off the
float or simply taking advantage of it.
In rec.woodworking
"^Halibut^" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> The absolute SLOWEST delivery method by UPS is UPS Ground and it is
>> GUARANTEED in 5 business days.
>
>you don't ship much with UPS do you?
I've shipped a dozen or so things. Would you care to dispute what I stated
with something other than a smart remark?
In rec.woodworking
"William" <wac@_nospam_gene-o-tech.com> wrote:
>> >> The absolute SLOWEST delivery method by UPS is UPS Ground and it is
>> >> GUARANTEED in 5 business days.
>> >
>> >you don't ship much with UPS do you?
>>
>> I've shipped a dozen or so things. Would you care to dispute what I
>stated
>> with something other than a smart remark?
>
>Their 5 day deal is only to a business address, the Home delivery has no
>delivery date guarantee
Wrongo!
from UPS.com
"UPS guarantees the day of delivery for every ground package you ship to
any address within the 48 contiguous states, except for any ground package
originating in Alaska or Hawaii. See the UPS Rate and Service Guide for
details."
In rec.woodworking
"Ron Magen" <[email protected]> wrote:
>This thread is getting ridiculous . . .
What is ridiculous is 14 business days for shipping when it is VERY
economical to ship UPS which is guaranteed in 5 business days or USPS
Priority Mail which is equally economical and is guaranteed 3 business
days.
In rec.woodworking
"Puff Griffis" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I don't know about their guarantee but I have shipped with UPS ground =
>and one item took 14 days to get within the lower 48 and another took 9. =
>So your 5 day statement is either wrong or abused.
That applies in the 48 contiguous. I would have thought that would be
obvious and expected to someone living outside of them.
In rec.woodworking
"Puff Griffis" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Last time I checked Kentucky was still considered the lower 48 and all =
>the packages I shipped originated here in Kentucky still a part of the =
>lower 48.
Well, I have no idea what you're saying then. Why don't you post some
tracking numbers that confirm these long shipments by UPS?
In rec.woodworking
[email protected] (Lawrence Wasserman) wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>Bruce <[email protected]> wrote:
>>In rec.woodworking
>>"Ron Magen" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>This thread is getting ridiculous . . .
>>
>>What is ridiculous is 14 business days for shipping when it is VERY
>>economical to ship UPS which is guaranteed in 5 business days or USPS
>>Priority Mail which is equally economical and is guaranteed 3 business
>>days.
>
>If it's so economical, why do most other vendors charge so much more
>for shipping than HF does?
My experience is that they don't. I just paid $12 for my recent HF order
that was shipped UPS ground. The box weighed 11 lbs. I'd call that about
normal.
In rec.woodworking
"Puff Griffis" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Why don't you give it a rest . What I said was the truth. Why you don't =
>accept it as the truth I don't know but its your demon to conquer not =
>mine.
That's what I figured. I don't accept it as truth because they deliver in
5 business days to the lower 48 states. If yours was late once, fine but
you're acting like it happens everytime you use them. I don't belive you.
In rec.woodworking
alexy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Why don't you give it a rest . What I said was the truth. Why you don't accept it as the truth I don't know
>
>I don't know why he doesn't accept it as the truth either. I would
>_guess_ that the reason might be that this "truth" was only stated on
>a newsgroup by someone he did not know, that it was claimed without
>substantiation, that it ran counter to his own experience, and that a
>suggestion of providing more data or substantiation was refused.
>
>Just a guess, mind you, but that would be why _I_ wouldn't believe
>something under those circumstances. ;-)
LMAO! Thank you alexy. You said it much more succinctly than I did.
I guess no one told you huh.
Its coming from China on a junk. lol.
Rich
"Hoyt Weathers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The following msg came in today in reply to my inquiry of May 28th:
>
> "Your order shipped on 5/25/04. Please allow 14 business days for
delivery."
>
> I realize it is a long way from HF in California to Alabama, but I wonder
by which
> method my order will come. A slow pony express? Perhaps by mule train. Oh
well, it
> was my first and last order to them. I just hope it arrives unbroken.
>
> Hoyt W.
>
>
Hoyt Weathers wrote:
> The following msg came in today in reply to my inquiry of May 28th:
>
> "Your order shipped on 5/25/04. Please allow 14 business days for delivery."
>
> I realize it is a long way from HF in California to Alabama, but I wonder by which
> method my order will come. A slow pony express? Perhaps by mule train. Oh well, it
> was my first and last order to them. I just hope it arrives unbroken.
>
> Hoyt W.
>
HF has a depot on the east coast(NC??). If your stuff is shipped from
there, it will arrive sooner. I have had orders from them arrive in NJ
as soon as 4 days and as late as 17 days. The early arrivals were all
from the east coast location.
Tim
--
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In article <[email protected]>,
KB8QLR <[email protected]> wrote:
>I wish someday someone would invent a way to ship packages via e-mail :-)
Not too many years ago, some quack selling 'homeopathic' medicines
_did_ that.
He'd sell this 'cable' that you plugged into the serial port (I think it
was) of the computer, and wrapped the other end around a bottle of plain
water, and downloaded the file. Voila! magic medicine.
The 'deceptive trade' people couldn't touch him on it -- analytical labs
showed the the 'electronically delivered' medicine was _exactly_ the same as
what was being sold in the traditional packaging.
He did go down on some other charges, eventually.
What I heard they do to save shipping cost, is accumulate a trailer
load of shipments to, say, the mid-atlantic region, then send the trailer
to some warehouse operation in that area, where the individual orders
are mailed/UPSed or whatever to their final destinations. That way
they get a good rate for the cross-country part of the shipping charges
They will ship by a faster method if you wish to pay for it.
--
Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]
In article <[email protected]>,
Bruce <[email protected]> wrote:
>In rec.woodworking
>"Ron Magen" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>This thread is getting ridiculous . . .
>
>What is ridiculous is 14 business days for shipping when it is VERY
>economical to ship UPS which is guaranteed in 5 business days or USPS
>Priority Mail which is equally economical and is guaranteed 3 business
>days.
If it's so economical, why do most other vendors charge so much more
for shipping than HF does?
--
Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]
This thread is getting ridiculous . . .
If you want something NOW go to a local shop, forget about YOUR time &
transport, pay maybe 4 times as much for the same item, plus local taxes.
If you want to be 'economical' {or CHEAP, like I am !!}think ahead & do some
research. We get the HF 'catalogs' about every week - at least it seems like
it. I'll browse them all. Most get thrown away, but I pay special attention
to the ones with '50% Off Specials', Free Shipping, and '$5.oo Off with
order' covers. Those usually get 'marked' and put aside.
About once every 3 months or so, I make up an order of the $2, $5, & $10
items that totals the amount for 'Free Shipping'. The $5.oo 'coupon' covers
most of the $5.95 Handling charge {used to be $3.50 - and just who do you
think picks & packs the order, and processes the paperwork ? Brownies - who
live under the stairs and work for a saucer of milk ?}.
I REFUSE all their offers of faster {read 'More Expensive'} shipping and
only want their 'standard' 7 to 14 business day service. {which I know is
for 'contingencies'. The same way that the $40 'rebate' for the office chair
I'm sitting in said ". . . allow 6-8 weeks for processing". If they didn't,
some one with a lot of time on their hands would be on the phone in 48-hours
threatening to sue because they didn't receive their money}.
I have ordered from Harbor Freight for years. It is mostly cheap stuff from
China and India, I know what to expect, and it ISN'T 'high precision'. But
if I need something to last for only one or two uses, or as a 'template' for
me to build a better model . . . that's fine. It's also just fine for me to
buy 36 throw-away 'acid brushes' at $2.49, or 2 large squeegees at $2.99,
latex gloves at $2.99/100 {which I get 6 boxes at a time}. I' ll continue to
grab their 'loss leaders' {like 7 inch wooden clamps from China for $2.99
each . . . look the same as Jorgensen/Pony to me . . .}and be just as
satisfied as you, 'rich guys'.
The wood I work with and boats I build doesn't seem to know the difference.
Regards & Good Luck,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop
{Care to see the Mahogany plaque I made for the Red Dragon, or the Memorial
Flag Case I gave Joanne ??}
"Hoyt Weathers" wrote . . .
SNIP
it was my first and last order to them. . . .
On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 05:05:47 GMT, Mark & Juanita
<[email protected]> stated, with eyes & arms akimbo:
>On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 07:37:22 -0700, Larry Jaques
><novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 05:14:15 GMT, Mark & Juanita
>><[email protected]> stated, with eyes & arms akimbo:
>>
>>> I keep a bottle of "Shower to Shower" powder next to the gloves. I put a
>>>little on my hands prior to putting the gloves on -- it makes it much
>>>easier to remove them. I don't even have to turn them inside out that way,
>>>just have to be a little careful taking them off.
>>
>>I learned to pull them down a bit (maybe 1/3 of the way over my palm)
>>and blow the glove off my fingers. The body then pulls off quite
>>easily.
>
> Neat idea Larry, I'll have to try that next time.
Just remember to blow/brush the powder off your mustache afterwards.
DAMHIKT
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==================================================
Ron Magen notes:
>
>I have ordered from Harbor Freight for years. It is mostly cheap stuff from
>China and India, I know what to expect, and it ISN'T 'high precision'. But
>if I need something to last for only one or two uses, or as a 'template' for
>me to build a better model . . . that's fine. It's also just fine for me to
>buy 36 throw-away 'acid brushes' at $2.49, or 2 large squeegees at $2.99,
>latex gloves at $2.99/100 {which I get 6 boxes at a time}.
Try some nitrile gloves, Ron. Much sturdier, resist more solvents more
strongly, not measurably more costly because of that, and don't set of latex
allergies.
Charlie Self
"The test and the use of man's education is that he finds pleasure in the
exercise of his mind." Jacques Barzun
On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:19:00 -0700, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 14:35:24 GMT, "Ron Magen" <[email protected]> stated
>wide-eyed, with arms akimbo:
>
>>Larry & Charlie,
>>Thanks for the suggestions, guys.
>
>Jewelcome.
>
>
>>I don't have any allergies, and typically 'sweat out' the gloves rather than
>>wear them out.
>
>Turn them inside out when you remove them, then flip 'em back and
>put a bit of baby powder back in them before reusing. Na worrie, mate.
>
I keep a bottle of "Shower to Shower" powder next to the gloves. I put a
little on my hands prior to putting the gloves on -- it makes it much
easier to remove them. I don't even have to turn them inside out that way,
just have to be a little careful taking them off.
>
>>One of the reasons for getting 6 boxes at a time is Joanne. She has some
>>kind of allergy. The skin on her hands starts to crack and get tender from
>>touching paper, especially newsprint. {maybe from so many years as a
>>chemist? Or handling files in the GI Department?}. Anyway, what seems to
>>help is 'isolation' . . . so depending what she is doing, she may wear Latex
>>gloves, poly gloves, or Nitrile gloves.
>
>I have boxes of each of those, too, and each one has its advantage
>in certain uses. It's sure cheaper to buy them by the sh*tload!
Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
<snip>
> Something I found out during last winter was that nitrile gloves
> under my work gloves kept my otherwise wet hands from getting cold
> when I was working outside.
<snip>
I'm gonna have to try this, since my hands get cold very easily. But I
don't understand how it could possibly work: your hands still sweat,
and the sweat just pools in latex or nitrile gloves, so wouldn't that
pooled sweat just make your hands colder?
If it does happen to work for me, I'll sing your praises for a long
time, then bitch and moan until someone makes nitrile socks too.
H.
Hi Ron,
If you're into recycling, here's a way to re-use latex/nitrile gloves.
When you take them off, pull them inside-out to dry. After dry, dust
w/ baby powder, then use compressed air to invert them outside-out
very easily.
H.
"Ron Magen" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Larry & Charlie,
> Thanks for the suggestions, guys.
>
> I don't have any allergies, and typically 'sweat out' the gloves rather than
> wear them out.
>
> One of the reasons for getting 6 boxes at a time is Joanne. She has some
> kind of allergy. The skin on her hands starts to crack and get tender from
> touching paper, especially newsprint. {maybe from so many years as a
> chemist? Or handling files in the GI Department?}. Anyway, what seems to
> help is 'isolation' . . . so depending what she is doing, she may wear Latex
> gloves, poly gloves, or Nitrile gloves.
>
> Regards & Thanks,
> Ron Magen
> Backyard Boatshop
>
> "Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On 02 Jun 2004 15:03:34 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
> > stated wide-eyed, with arms akimbo:
> >
> > >Ron Magen notes:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>latex gloves at $2.99/100 {which I get 6 boxes at a time}.
> SNIP
> > >
> > >Try some nitrile gloves, Ron. Much sturdier, resist more solvents more
> > >strongly, not measurably more costly because of that, and don't set of
> latex
> > >allergies.
> SNIP
> >
> > Something I found out during last winter was that nitrile gloves
> > under my work gloves kept my otherwise wet hands from getting cold
On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 05:14:15 GMT, Mark & Juanita
<[email protected]> stated, with eyes & arms akimbo:
> I keep a bottle of "Shower to Shower" powder next to the gloves. I put a
>little on my hands prior to putting the gloves on -- it makes it much
>easier to remove them. I don't even have to turn them inside out that way,
>just have to be a little careful taking them off.
I learned to pull them down a bit (maybe 1/3 of the way over my palm)
and blow the glove off my fingers. The body then pulls off quite
easily.
--
Vidi, Vici, Veni
---
http://diversify.com Comprehensive Website Development
Larry & Charlie,
Thanks for the suggestions, guys.
I don't have any allergies, and typically 'sweat out' the gloves rather than
wear them out.
One of the reasons for getting 6 boxes at a time is Joanne. She has some
kind of allergy. The skin on her hands starts to crack and get tender from
touching paper, especially newsprint. {maybe from so many years as a
chemist? Or handling files in the GI Department?}. Anyway, what seems to
help is 'isolation' . . . so depending what she is doing, she may wear Latex
gloves, poly gloves, or Nitrile gloves.
Regards & Thanks,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop
"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 02 Jun 2004 15:03:34 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
> stated wide-eyed, with arms akimbo:
>
> >Ron Magen notes:
> >
> >>
> >>latex gloves at $2.99/100 {which I get 6 boxes at a time}.
SNIP
> >
> >Try some nitrile gloves, Ron. Much sturdier, resist more solvents more
> >strongly, not measurably more costly because of that, and don't set of
latex
> >allergies.
SNIP
>
> Something I found out during last winter was that nitrile gloves
> under my work gloves kept my otherwise wet hands from getting cold
Has this 'thread' taken on a life of it's own, or what !!
All the suggestions about re-using cheap latex gloves are nice . .
.especially turning them inside-out.
However, in my case it is not practical and rather self-defeating. I wear
them for skin protection when working with EPOXY.
Regards & THANKS,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop
"Mark & Juanita" wrote ...
Larry Jaques wrote:
[email protected]> stated, with eyes & arms akimbo:
> >>
On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 07:37:22 -0700, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 05:14:15 GMT, Mark & Juanita
><[email protected]> stated, with eyes & arms akimbo:
>
>> I keep a bottle of "Shower to Shower" powder next to the gloves. I put a
>>little on my hands prior to putting the gloves on -- it makes it much
>>easier to remove them. I don't even have to turn them inside out that way,
>>just have to be a little careful taking them off.
>
>I learned to pull them down a bit (maybe 1/3 of the way over my palm)
>and blow the glove off my fingers. The body then pulls off quite
>easily.
Neat idea Larry, I'll have to try that next time.
Hylourgos wrote:
> Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>
> <snip>
>
>> Something I found out during last winter was that nitrile gloves
>> under my work gloves kept my otherwise wet hands from getting cold
>> when I was working outside.
> <snip>
>
> I'm gonna have to try this, since my hands get cold very easily. But I
> don't understand how it could possibly work: your hands still sweat,
> and the sweat just pools in latex or nitrile gloves, so wouldn't that
> pooled sweat just make your hands colder?
Perspiration cools by evaporation. If there's an impervious barrier between
it and the air then it doesn't evaporate and thus doesn't cool.
> If it does happen to work for me, I'll sing your praises for a long
> time, then bitch and moan until someone makes nitrile socks too.
>
> H.
--
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Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
On 02 Jun 2004 15:03:34 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
stated wide-eyed, with arms akimbo:
>Ron Magen notes:
>
>>
>>I have ordered from Harbor Freight for years. It is mostly cheap stuff from
>>China and India, I know what to expect, and it ISN'T 'high precision'. But
>>if I need something to last for only one or two uses, or as a 'template' for
>>me to build a better model . . . that's fine. It's also just fine for me to
>>buy 36 throw-away 'acid brushes' at $2.49, or 2 large squeegees at $2.99,
>>latex gloves at $2.99/100 {which I get 6 boxes at a time}.
>
>Try some nitrile gloves, Ron. Much sturdier, resist more solvents more
>strongly, not measurably more costly because of that, and don't set of latex
>allergies.
Something I found out during last winter was that nitrile gloves
under my work gloves kept my otherwise wet hands from getting cold
when I was working outside. I now use them to wash things in really
cold or hot water. They work well as insulators, about 20 times
better than latex. I bought an $11.99 box of 100 about 3 years ago
and have half of them left. They're strong enough to be extensively
reusable by adding a bit more powder to them.
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On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 16:40:57 GMT, "Ron Magen" <[email protected]> calmly
ranted:
>Should make enough at the local 'Artist's Shoppe Show' to build a new shop.
>Especially if you have TWO walls and leave one whole as a 'Mural'.
>
>Regards,
>Ron Magen
>Backyard Boatshop
>{Don't laugh . . . historically similar things have been done !! It's just a
>matter of either finding the right 'suckers', or a GOOD marketing/publicity
>agent !! }
Yeah, they sell scat as art in NYC. Anything's possible.
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You can get latex, vinyl and nitrel gloves fro Delta medical for less than
any of those places. The only catch is you have to buy 10 boxes at a time.
If you get some friends together you can get good gloves for less cash.
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210/653-1276
[email protected]
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"Gary Greenberg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just a thought y'all:
> Check with your doctor.
> I get my latex gloves from my dentist; they're better than HFs, which
> tend to tear quite often, and less expensive [YMMV].
> worth asking next time you visit.
>
> Gary
On 3 Jun 2004 06:13:59 -0700, [email protected] (Hylourgos) stated
wide-eyed, with arms akimbo:
>Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
><snip>
>
>> Something I found out during last winter was that nitrile gloves
>> under my work gloves kept my otherwise wet hands from getting cold
>> when I was working outside.
><snip>
>
>I'm gonna have to try this, since my hands get cold very easily. But I
>don't understand how it could possibly work: your hands still sweat,
>and the sweat just pools in latex or nitrile gloves, so wouldn't that
>pooled sweat just make your hands colder?
Y'know, I don't recall my hands sweating in them last winter. Hmmm.
Yeah, just give it a try next season.
>If it does happen to work for me, I'll sing your praises for a long
>time, then bitch and moan until someone makes nitrile socks too.
<g>
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[email protected] (Charlie Self) wrote:
>Try some nitrile gloves, Ron. Much sturdier, resist more solvents more
>strongly, not measurably more costly because of that, and don't set of latex
>allergies.
>
>Charlie Self
I second that. Just was cleaning up something with lacquer thinner,
and wished for latex, since the nitrile pretty much dissolved, but
otherwise, they seem much tougher, without being thicker or losing any
more "touch".
--
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Make the obvious change in the return address to reply by email.
On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 14:35:24 GMT, "Ron Magen" <[email protected]> stated
wide-eyed, with arms akimbo:
>Larry & Charlie,
>Thanks for the suggestions, guys.
Jewelcome.
>I don't have any allergies, and typically 'sweat out' the gloves rather than
>wear them out.
Turn them inside out when you remove them, then flip 'em back and
put a bit of baby powder back in them before reusing. Na worrie, mate.
>One of the reasons for getting 6 boxes at a time is Joanne. She has some
>kind of allergy. The skin on her hands starts to crack and get tender from
>touching paper, especially newsprint. {maybe from so many years as a
>chemist? Or handling files in the GI Department?}. Anyway, what seems to
>help is 'isolation' . . . so depending what she is doing, she may wear Latex
>gloves, poly gloves, or Nitrile gloves.
I have boxes of each of those, too, and each one has its advantage
in certain uses. It's sure cheaper to buy them by the sh*tload!
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Actually, the thing to do would be to also use that same wall to 'clean' the
nozzle's of spray cans, {"Hold can upside down and spray to clear, etc . .
."}. Then, every couple of years take it down, cut it up into various sizes
of square or rectangle, run a length of weathered 1x1 across the router
table to create an appropriate sized rabbit, and make up some matching
frames.
Should make enough at the local 'Artist's Shoppe Show' to build a new shop.
Especially if you have TWO walls and leave one whole as a 'Mural'.
Regards,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop
{Don't laugh . . . historically similar things have been done !! It's just a
matter of either finding the right 'suckers', or a GOOD marketing/publicity
agent !! }
"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote ...
SNIP
> In your case, Ron, you could simply put your hands up against a
> wall somewhere, wait a minute, and remove your hands from the
> stuck gloves, disposing of that glove-sucking wall once every
> few years. ;)
On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 22:22:48 GMT, "Ron Magen" <[email protected]>
stated, with eyes & arms akimbo:
>Has this 'thread' taken on a life of it's own, or what !!
>
>All the suggestions about re-using cheap latex gloves are nice . .
>.especially turning them inside-out.
>
>However, in my case it is not practical and rather self-defeating. I wear
>them for skin protection when working with EPOXY.
In your case, Ron, you could simply put your hands up against a
wall somewhere, wait a minute, and remove your hands from the
stuck gloves, disposing of that glove-sucking wall once every
few years. ;)
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Bruce wrote:
> In rec.woodworking
> DJ Delorie <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>I've had UPS orders just sit in a warehouse for a few days waiting for
>>their turn in a truck. Why? Because I didn't want to pay for higher
>>priority shipping. HF may *guarantee* it's there in 14 days or less,
>>doesn't mean it *will* take all 14 days. One company I order from,
>>same priority shipping, arrives the next morning. It depends on what
>>else is going that way.
>>
>>All shipping companies are that way. If you want a faster guaranteed
>>delivery date, pay for it.
>>
>>Of course, you should be able to get tracking information from HF so
>>you can find out where your order is and the ETA for it from the
>>shipping company.
>
>
> The absolute SLOWEST delivery method by UPS is UPS Ground and it is
> GUARANTEED in 5 business days. The 14 business day thing by HF is complete
> bullshit. I agree with someone else that surmised they're living off the
> float or simply taking advantage of it.
>
I had some of their stuff from CA to NJ come via USPS Parcel Post...and
that is really slow.
Tim
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Why don't you give it a rest . What I said was the truth. Why you don't =
accept it as the truth I don't know but its your demon to conquer not =
mine.
Puff
"Bruce" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
> In rec.woodworking
> "Puff Griffis" <[email protected]> wrote:
>=20
> >Last time I checked Kentucky was still considered the lower 48 and =
all =3D
> >the packages I shipped originated here in Kentucky still a part of =
the =3D
> >lower 48.
>=20
> Well, I have no idea what you're saying then. Why don't you post some
> tracking numbers that confirm these long shipments by UPS?
You'll probably get it sooner than they promised, but you whine too much to
deserve it.
Kevin
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"Hoyt Weathers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The following msg came in today in reply to my inquiry of May 28th:
>
> "Your order shipped on 5/25/04. Please allow 14 business days for
delivery."
>
> I realize it is a long way from HF in California to Alabama, but I wonder
by which
> method my order will come. A slow pony express? Perhaps by mule train. Oh
well, it
> was my first and last order to them. I just hope it arrives unbroken.
>
> Hoyt W.
>
> I realize it is a long way from HF in California to Alabama, but I wonder
> by which method my order will come. A slow pony express? Perhaps by mule
> train. Oh well, it was my first and last order to them. I just hope it
> arrives unbroken.
We live in Pennsylvania. I found ordering on line is faster than mailing or
phoning the order in, most times it came either USPS or UPS. I had one
larger order come both ways - shipped the same day. Several smaller items
were in a box, shipped USPS and larger package with a gasoline powered
pump was shipped UPS. The box of smaller items shipped USPS arrived several
days before the pump shipped UPS, I would complain to my wife during those
few days - I wrongly assumed the USPS probably lost/broke the pump and
then it arrived UPS - what a shocker.
The pump did have some minor damage, I had to buy a new drain plug for it,
the original was plastic and got broken during shipment, replaced it with a
brass plug for a few dollars. Considering the same American made Pacer
gasoline powered pump sold for about $230.00 (plus shipping) in the
Northern Tools catalog , $208-220 at the local supply stores and I got it
for less then $180.00 with free shipping via the HF online catalog, paying
a few dollars for a new plug did not bother me at all. It has been a while;
I don't remember the exact prices, but do know I saved a lot getting it at
Harbor Freight on line. However, not everything at Harbor Freight is
cheaper. My most recent purchase, a DeWalt 12 " sliding compound miter saw
was the same price at Harbor Freight as Woodcraft which was closer, so I
bought it at Woodcraft - I prefer to buy from local merchants if prices
are close to the same.
I also had the HF floor model radial arm drill press shipped UPS from New
Jersey, rather than California, it arrived ok, the box would not have made
it much further but everything inside was ok. I never had anything smaller
come damaged, most times the boxes look great, those shipped by USPS and
UPS. I don't order too often these days, we now have a store close by.
joe
"Bruce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In rec.woodworking
> "William" <wac@_nospam_gene-o-tech.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> The absolute SLOWEST delivery method by UPS is UPS Ground and it is
> >> >> GUARANTEED in 5 business days.
> >> >
> >> >you don't ship much with UPS do you?
> >>
> >> I've shipped a dozen or so things. Would you care to dispute what I
> >stated
> >> with something other than a smart remark?
> >
> >Their 5 day deal is only to a business address, the Home delivery has no
> >delivery date guarantee
>
> Wrongo!
>
> from UPS.com
>
> "UPS guarantees the day of delivery for every ground package you ship to
> any address within the 48 contiguous states, except for any ground package
> originating in Alaska or Hawaii. See the UPS Rate and Service Guide for
> details."
It looks like they changed their system and now they will guarantee the
shipment to residential locations, but it can take MORE than 5 days to get
there Now they just tell you how long it will take and then guarantee that
it will make it there by that date
I don't know about their guarantee but I have shipped with UPS ground =
and one item took 14 days to get within the lower 48 and another took 9. =
So your 5 day statement is either wrong or abused.
Puff
"Bruce" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
> In rec.woodworking
> "^Halibut^" <[email protected]> wrote:
>=20
> >
> >>
> >> The absolute SLOWEST delivery method by UPS is UPS Ground and it is
> >> GUARANTEED in 5 business days.
> >
> >you don't ship much with UPS do you?
>=20
> I've shipped a dozen or so things. Would you care to dispute what I =
stated
> with something other than a smart remark?
> >What is ridiculous is 14 business days for shipping when it is VERY
> >economical to ship UPS which is guaranteed in 5 business days or USPS
> >Priority Mail which is equally economical and is guaranteed 3 business
> >days.
>
> If it's so economical, why do most other vendors charge so much more
> for shipping than HF does?
Because it is usually "Shipping and Handling". Some people are very
proud of their handling. Some vendors also charge customers the full
listed UPS rate even though they get a substantial discount.
If the shipper does not give you a tracking number (which shows
exactly when UPS picked up the package), you can bet they are holding
it to fill out a load and get a cheaper bulk shipping rate. When you
do get the tracking number from a vendor, the UPS website tells you
when you can expect to receive it, and it is very accurate. Coast to
Coast in the contiguous 48 should never take 14 days; it will be
closer to 6. Again, you can check time-in-transit information for any
two points from their website.
I have not had very good luck with the USPS.
Kirk
I wish someday someone would invent a way to ship packages via e-mail :-)
Joe
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"Hoyt Weathers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The following msg came in today in reply to my inquiry of May 28th:
>
> "Your order shipped on 5/25/04. Please allow 14 business days for
delivery."
>
> I realize it is a long way from HF in California to Alabama, but I wonder
by which
> method my order will come. A slow pony express? Perhaps by mule train. Oh
well, it
> was my first and last order to them. I just hope it arrives unbroken.
>
> Hoyt W.
>
Point well made Alexy. The problem is I don't keep records of ebay =
sales I made 5 years ago but I do remember having to explain to the =
buyer that I did indeed ship the items BTW it did not happen just once =
it happened twice. I am also not in the habit of questioning someone =
else's honesty or having mine questioned. This may be acceptable =
behavior among some but I find it abrasive and rude.
Puff
"alexy" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
> "Puff Griffis" <[email protected]> wrote:
>=20
> >Why don't you give it a rest . What I said was the truth. Why you =
don't accept it as the truth I don't know
>=20
> I don't know why he doesn't accept it as the truth either. I would
> _guess_ that the reason might be that this "truth" was only stated on
> a newsgroup by someone he did not know, that it was claimed without
> substantiation, that it ran counter to his own experience, and that a
> suggestion of providing more data or substantiation was refused.
>=20
> Just a guess, mind you, but that would be why _I_ wouldn't believe
> something under those circumstances. ;-)
> --=20
> Alex
> Make the obvious change in the return address to reply by email.
On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 00:45:46 GMT, "^Halibut^"
<[email protected]> stated wide-eyed, with arms akimbo:
>> The absolute SLOWEST delivery method by UPS is UPS Ground and it is
>> GUARANTEED in 5 business days.
>
>you don't ship much with UPS do you?
Bicoastal deliveries via UPS for me take 7-8 days, inclusive.
I ordered some tennies from Zappos.com on Sunday (Memorial Day
weekend, no less) and they arrived today (Wednesday) via Fedex
2-Day. Shipping was free and they upgraded it to boot. <groan>
For speed, go with Fedex or USPSPM.
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On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 17:24:40 -0500, Hoyt Weathers <[email protected]>
wrote:
>The following msg came in today in reply to my inquiry of May 28th:
>
>"Your order shipped on 5/25/04. Please allow 14 business days for delivery."
>
>I realize it is a long way from HF in California to Alabama, but I wonder by which
>method my order will come. A slow pony express? Perhaps by mule train. Oh well, it
>was my first and last order to them. I just hope it arrives unbroken.
>
>Hoyt W.
They never stated the SOONEST you'll get it. They simply stated the
LONGEST time it will take to arrive.
Build somethin' while yer waitin'. The time will pass quickly.
Have a nice week...
Trent©
Dyslexics of the world ... UNTIE !
On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 02:26:36 GMT, [email protected] (Bruce) wrote:
>In rec.woodworking
>"^Halibut^" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>>
>>> The absolute SLOWEST delivery method by UPS is UPS Ground and it is
>>> GUARANTEED in 5 business days.
>>
>>you don't ship much with UPS do you?
>
>I've shipped a dozen or so things. Would you care to dispute what I stated
>with something other than a smart remark?
If you don't get it in 5 days, what do you get with the guarantee?
UPS is pretty good. Actually, I'm really pleased with their service.
But, years ago, I did wait over 10 days...for an overnight delivery to
get to me! Actually, it was fun. I was tracking it every day...and
it was fun to see where it had been. Ironically, no one could stop it
in its tracks! lol
I had the customer (really EAGER customer, of course!) stop over each
morning...and we'd drink coffee and watch its movement together!
Have a nice week...
Trent©
Dyslexics of the world ... UNTIE !
"Bruce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In rec.woodworking
> "^Halibut^" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >>
> >> The absolute SLOWEST delivery method by UPS is UPS Ground and it is
> >> GUARANTEED in 5 business days.
> >
> >you don't ship much with UPS do you?
>
> I've shipped a dozen or so things. Would you care to dispute what I
stated
> with something other than a smart remark?
Their 5 day deal is only to a business address, the Home delivery has no
delivery date guarantee
William
wacworkshope.com
I've had UPS orders just sit in a warehouse for a few days waiting for
their turn in a truck. Why? Because I didn't want to pay for higher
priority shipping. HF may *guarantee* it's there in 14 days or less,
doesn't mean it *will* take all 14 days. One company I order from,
same priority shipping, arrives the next morning. It depends on what
else is going that way.
All shipping companies are that way. If you want a faster guaranteed
delivery date, pay for it.
Of course, you should be able to get tracking information from HF so
you can find out where your order is and the ETA for it from the
shipping company.
Last time I checked Kentucky was still considered the lower 48 and all =
the packages I shipped originated here in Kentucky still a part of the =
lower 48.
Puff
"Bruce" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
> In rec.woodworking
> "Puff Griffis" <[email protected]> wrote:
>=20
> >I don't know about their guarantee but I have shipped with UPS ground =
=3D
> >and one item took 14 days to get within the lower 48 and another took =
9. =3D
> >So your 5 day statement is either wrong or abused.
>=20
> That applies in the 48 contiguous. I would have thought that would be
> obvious and expected to someone living outside of them.