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11/05/2004 3:45 PM

Birch and Alder Cabinet


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Bought this unfinished alder and birch unfinished cabinet. Plan to
retrofit it into a pantry cabinet to match my knotty pine wood kitchen
cabinets.

It is the kind you put together. I have worked with birch before but
never Alder.
Info I find says it is light red in color , grows in moist cool
climates. Also is used to smoke food on a BBQ.!!!!

I know the 3/4' plywod is birch, but looks like all the trim and raised
panel doors, crown mouldings etc. are Alder. They are a different color
than the ply.

My question is how to finish both woods to look alike. I want to do this
before putting it together . Instructions with cabinet says to sand
w/22o and then 320.
Done that. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Pat.


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tT

in reply to [email protected] (Pat) on 11/05/2004 3:45 PM

12/05/2004 1:16 AM

Pat wrote: >Bought this unfinished alder and birch unfinished cabinet. Plan to
>retrofit it into a pantry cabinet to match my knotty pine wood kitchen
>cabinets.
>
>It is the kind you put together. I have worked with birch before but
>never Alder.
>Info I find says it is light red in color , grows in moist cool
>climates. Also is used to smoke food on a BBQ.!!!!
>
>I know the 3/4' plywod is birch, but looks like all the trim and raised
>panel doors, crown mouldings etc. are Alder. They are a different color
>than the ply.
>
>My question is how to finish both woods to look alike. I want to do this
>before putting it together . Instructions with cabinet says to sand
>w/22o and then 320.
>Done that. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Pat.
>
Practice on scraps. And remember, it's easier to dilute a color than to darken
it. You don't say what types of stains/finishes you'll be using. The alder
takes stains pretty blotchily, if you don't pad on some shellac first. Tom
Someday, it'll all be over....

pP

in reply to [email protected] (Tom) on 12/05/2004 1:16 AM

11/05/2004 11:59 PM


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I don't have any Alder scraps just the parts that came with the cabinet.
Have scraps in shop of baltic birch plywood.

Pat.


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tT

in reply to [email protected] (Pat) on 11/05/2004 11:59 PM

12/05/2004 4:46 AM

Pat wrote:>I don't have any Alder scraps just the parts that came with the
cabinet.
>Have scraps in shop of baltic birch plywood.
>

Then you may have to match the birch to the alder. Still do-able. Tom
Someday, it'll all be over....

gs

[email protected] (seth livingston)

in reply to [email protected] (Tom) on 12/05/2004 1:16 AM

12/05/2004 6:42 AM

since the cabinet is still in pieces, try staining the inside
(backside) surfaces until you get a formula which gives you the
results you want. you can then duplicate it on the faces of the
parts. any mistakes can either be ignored or sanded off...

my $.02,
seth


[email protected] (Pat) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I don't have any Alder scraps just the parts that came with the cabinet.
> Have scraps in shop of baltic birch plywood.
>
> Pat.
>
>
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pP

in reply to [email protected] (seth livingston) on 12/05/2004 6:42 AM

12/05/2004 4:40 PM


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Thanks for all your help, I'll let you know How it turns out. If by any
means I can't get it right. there is always a faux paint finish. i know
that is dirty word, ( paint to woodworkers).

Pat


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RB

in reply to [email protected] (Pat) on 11/05/2004 3:45 PM

11/05/2004 8:40 PM

I like birch. I cut alder like a weed. This weekend I need to cut down
a bunch of alders that have come up in the past couple of years which
spoil the view. They grow fast, and in general I prefer not to work
with fast growing woods.

RB

Pat wrote:
> Bought this unfinished alder and birch unfinished cabinet. Plan to
> retrofit it into a pantry cabinet to match my knotty pine wood kitchen
> cabinets.
>
> It is the kind you put together. I have worked with birch before but
> never Alder.
> Info I find says it is light red in color , grows in moist cool
> climates. Also is used to smoke food on a BBQ.!!!!
>
> I know the 3/4' plywod is birch, but looks like all the trim and raised
> panel doors, crown mouldings etc. are Alder. They are a different color
> than the ply.
>
> My question is how to finish both woods to look alike. I want to do this
> before putting it together . Instructions with cabinet says to sand
> w/22o and then 320.
> Done that. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Pat.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>

pP

in reply to RB on 11/05/2004 8:40 PM

11/05/2004 11:54 PM


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I didn't realize it was Alder when i bought it. thought it was all
birch. Now that I have it i need to finish it

My kitchen cabinets are a medium honey spice color knotty pine. Or like
the red oak with tung oil finish cabinet I have.

Since this is in the kitchen and will get a lot of use and of course
will be wiped down a lot.. What would you all suggest an oil stain and
or finish, or water based with poly.

Pat.


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