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"Dick Fitzwell"

30/12/2003 8:07 PM

HVLP Sprayer and Pancake Compressor

I am a finishing novice and am interested in spraying some finishes. I
started looking into an HVLP sprayer. Is my 2HP, 6 gallon PC pancake
compressor up to the job? If not, what recommendations do you have.

Thanks,
Dick Fitzwell


This topic has 10 replies

TM

"Tony Mo"

in reply to "Dick Fitzwell" on 30/12/2003 8:07 PM

30/12/2003 3:58 PM

Hi Dick,
Let me start by saying I have never used an HVLP sprayer. But, from what I
have read I believe your compressor will be too small. HVLP spray guns
would require something like a minimum of 7scfm and about 25 gallon tank.
However, if you want to try spraying finishes, take a look at a "Critter."
Check the Lee Valley website for a picture and description. catalogue
#03K03.01. They sell for $54.50 Canadian.
I have one and use it with my 2hp, 4gallon compressor. You wouldn't want to
paint your garage or your car with it but it works great if you are only
spraying medium to smaller projects like boxes, cabinet doors, drawers etc.
It uses standard mason jars to hold the finish. This is great because when
you do multiple coats you can just seal up the jar and re-use it later.
That's my 2 cents worth.

Keep your stick on the ice.
Tony

"Dick Fitzwell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am a finishing novice and am interested in spraying some finishes. I
> started looking into an HVLP sprayer. Is my 2HP, 6 gallon PC pancake
> compressor up to the job? If not, what recommendations do you have.
>
> Thanks,
> Dick Fitzwell
>
>

DB

"Denny B"

in reply to "Dick Fitzwell" on 30/12/2003 8:07 PM

30/12/2003 11:50 PM

It is stamped on the gun handle.
29 PSI.

A touch up gun with a 8 oz cup
allows you to do much.

Denny.


"Mike G" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Interesting, they have gotten it that low, even if it is in a touch
up gun.
> What is the PSI required?
>
> --
> Mike G.
> [email protected]
> Heirloom Woods
> www.heirloom-woods.net
> "Denny B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I have a DevIlbiss 1Hp 7 gal compressor
> > and use a Sata MiniJet 2 and a Devilbiss SRi touch up gun
> > both these guns require 3.7 CFM.
> >
> > Yes you can use a 2HP 6gal pancake with these guns.
> > PS. both the above guns are HVLP
> >
> > Denny
> >
> >
> > "Dick Fitzwell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > I am a finishing novice and am interested in spraying some
finishes.
> > I
> > > started looking into an HVLP sprayer. Is my 2HP, 6 gallon PC
pancake
> > > compressor up to the job? If not, what recommendations do you
have.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Dick Fitzwell
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

DB

"Denny B"

in reply to "Dick Fitzwell" on 30/12/2003 8:07 PM

31/12/2003 9:12 AM



> Hi Denny
>
> Thanks for the info. Sorry, wasn't implying that because it was a
tough up
> gun it wasn't a good thing.

Mike, no I did not assume that is what you were implying
I just provided that for general information.
In summer I will be spraying my car with my touch up guns.
How can this be possible some may wonder? Its possible by
spraying sections of the car !

Denny


>
> --
> Mike G.
> [email protected]
> Heirloom Woods
> www.heirloom-woods.net
> "Denny B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > It is stamped on the gun handle.
> > 29 PSI.
> >
> > A touch up gun with a 8 oz cup
> > allows you to do much.
> >
> > Denny.
> >
> >
> > "Mike G" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Interesting, they have gotten it that low, even if it is in a
touch
> > up gun.
> > > What is the PSI required?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mike G.
> > > [email protected]
> > > Heirloom Woods
> > > www.heirloom-woods.net
> > > "Denny B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > I have a DevIlbiss 1Hp 7 gal compressor
> > > > and use a Sata MiniJet 2 and a Devilbiss SRi touch up gun
> > > > both these guns require 3.7 CFM.
> > > >
> > > > Yes you can use a 2HP 6gal pancake with these guns.
> > > > PS. both the above guns are HVLP
> > > >
> > > > Denny
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Dick Fitzwell" <[email protected]> wrote in
message
> > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > > I am a finishing novice and am interested in spraying some
> > finishes.
> > > > I
> > > > > started looking into an HVLP sprayer. Is my 2HP, 6 gallon PC
> > pancake
> > > > > compressor up to the job? If not, what recommendations do
you
> > have.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Dick Fitzwell
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

AR

"AL"

in reply to "Dick Fitzwell" on 30/12/2003 8:07 PM

30/12/2003 11:04 PM

If you get a gravity feed HVLP gun (ie. the cup is on the top) and limit
your spraying to small areas, you should be ok.

"Dick Fitzwell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am a finishing novice and am interested in spraying some finishes. I
> started looking into an HVLP sprayer. Is my 2HP, 6 gallon PC pancake
> compressor up to the job? If not, what recommendations do you have.
>
> Thanks,
> Dick Fitzwell
>
>

MG

"Mike G"

in reply to "Dick Fitzwell" on 30/12/2003 8:07 PM

31/12/2003 9:04 AM

Hi Denny

Thanks for the info. Sorry, wasn't implying that because it was a tough up
gun it wasn't a good thing.

--
Mike G.
[email protected]
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Denny B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It is stamped on the gun handle.
> 29 PSI.
>
> A touch up gun with a 8 oz cup
> allows you to do much.
>
> Denny.
>
>
> "Mike G" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Interesting, they have gotten it that low, even if it is in a touch
> up gun.
> > What is the PSI required?
> >
> > --
> > Mike G.
> > [email protected]
> > Heirloom Woods
> > www.heirloom-woods.net
> > "Denny B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > I have a DevIlbiss 1Hp 7 gal compressor
> > > and use a Sata MiniJet 2 and a Devilbiss SRi touch up gun
> > > both these guns require 3.7 CFM.
> > >
> > > Yes you can use a 2HP 6gal pancake with these guns.
> > > PS. both the above guns are HVLP
> > >
> > > Denny
> > >
> > >
> > > "Dick Fitzwell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > I am a finishing novice and am interested in spraying some
> finishes.
> > > I
> > > > started looking into an HVLP sprayer. Is my 2HP, 6 gallon PC
> pancake
> > > > compressor up to the job? If not, what recommendations do you
> have.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Dick Fitzwell
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

DB

"Denny B"

in reply to "Dick Fitzwell" on 30/12/2003 8:07 PM

30/12/2003 11:56 PM

These guns are gravity feed by the way.

Denny



"Denny B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It is stamped on the gun handle.
> 29 PSI.
>
> A touch up gun with a 8 oz cup
> allows you to do much.
>
> Denny.
>
>
> "Mike G" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Interesting, they have gotten it that low, even if it is in a
touch
> up gun.
> > What is the PSI required?
> >
> > --
> > Mike G.
> > [email protected]
> > Heirloom Woods
> > www.heirloom-woods.net
> > "Denny B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > I have a DevIlbiss 1Hp 7 gal compressor
> > > and use a Sata MiniJet 2 and a Devilbiss SRi touch up gun
> > > both these guns require 3.7 CFM.
> > >
> > > Yes you can use a 2HP 6gal pancake with these guns.
> > > PS. both the above guns are HVLP
> > >
> > > Denny
> > >
> > >
> > > "Dick Fitzwell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > I am a finishing novice and am interested in spraying some
> finishes.
> > > I
> > > > started looking into an HVLP sprayer. Is my 2HP, 6 gallon PC
> pancake
> > > > compressor up to the job? If not, what recommendations do you
> have.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Dick Fitzwell
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

MG

"Mike G"

in reply to "Dick Fitzwell" on 30/12/2003 8:07 PM

30/12/2003 8:53 PM

Interesting, they have gotten it that low, even if it is in a touch up gun.
What is the PSI required?

--
Mike G.
[email protected]
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Denny B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have a DevIlbiss 1Hp 7 gal compressor
> and use a Sata MiniJet 2 and a Devilbiss SRi touch up gun
> both these guns require 3.7 CFM.
>
> Yes you can use a 2HP 6gal pancake with these guns.
> PS. both the above guns are HVLP
>
> Denny
>
>
> "Dick Fitzwell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I am a finishing novice and am interested in spraying some finishes.
> I
> > started looking into an HVLP sprayer. Is my 2HP, 6 gallon PC pancake
> > compressor up to the job? If not, what recommendations do you have.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dick Fitzwell
> >
> >
>
>

DB

"Denny B"

in reply to "Dick Fitzwell" on 30/12/2003 8:07 PM

30/12/2003 5:33 PM

I have a DevIlbiss 1Hp 7 gal compressor
and use a Sata MiniJet 2 and a Devilbiss SRi touch up gun
both these guns require 3.7 CFM.

Yes you can use a 2HP 6gal pancake with these guns.
PS. both the above guns are HVLP

Denny


"Dick Fitzwell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am a finishing novice and am interested in spraying some finishes.
I
> started looking into an HVLP sprayer. Is my 2HP, 6 gallon PC pancake
> compressor up to the job? If not, what recommendations do you have.
>
> Thanks,
> Dick Fitzwell
>
>

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "Dick Fitzwell" on 30/12/2003 8:07 PM

30/12/2003 9:09 PM


"Dick Fitzwell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am a finishing novice and am interested in spraying some finishes. I
> started looking into an HVLP sprayer. Is my 2HP, 6 gallon PC pancake
> compressor up to the job? If not, what recommendations do you have.
>
> Thanks,
> Dick Fitzwell

Probably now, but look at the cfm of the compressor and compare it to the
air requirements of the sprayer you are considering. The first number
should be bigger than the second.

MG

"Mike G"

in reply to "Dick Fitzwell" on 30/12/2003 8:07 PM

30/12/2003 5:28 PM

The short answer is no, it isn't. Not with the conversion gun technology
available now.

Your options are to

1 - buy a big dual stage, oil lubed compressor, 3 HP plus putting out over
10 cfm at 90 psi with a 20 Gal tank, then buy a conversion gun to go with
it.

2 - Go to Wal Mart or equivalent or auto supply store and get a Campbell
Hausfeld non bleeder conventional gun, use it with you present compressor,
and forget HVLP for awhile

3 - Buy a Rockler or Harbor Freight starter HVLP system for <$100.00 and get
your feet wet before investing lots of bucks. These units are not as
versatile in what they can spray but, with the right nozzle and viscosity,
they will spray common finishes and stains quite well.

4 - Jump off the high board and go for a Fuji, accuspray, turbinaire, etc,
high end HVLP system.

Notes.

An HVLP system, cheap or expensive, is no magic carpet ride to a perfect
finish and either flavor, as well as a conversion gun or conventional
system, are perfectly capable of giving you a perfect finish if you put the
work into it.

HVLP system benefits are in the fact that the low pressure high volume
results in less bounce back and over spray of material floating around in
the air and more finish on the piece. Naturally that means better use of the
finishing material. Transfer efficiency of a conventional system is about
35%, for a HVLP system 80% +

Judging from your post it would be far better for you if you were to do
considerably more independent research into the subject of spraying before
you even think about spending a dime.
--
Mike G.
[email protected]
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Dick Fitzwell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am a finishing novice and am interested in spraying some finishes. I
> started looking into an HVLP sprayer. Is my 2HP, 6 gallon PC pancake
> compressor up to the job? If not, what recommendations do you have.
>
> Thanks,
> Dick Fitzwell
>
>


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