The short version (I hope).
Here I thought I could start finishing the kitchen cabinets today in
the lovely 65F weather we're having. But, no-oo.
Background: I have this lovely hvlp system raring to go and have now
decided it might be prudent to go with a water based product since...
The Deft lacquer I have is apparently ill suited to kitchen use (6
(SIX!) coats?!?!? May turn white w/exposure to moisture.).
And...
I can't count on lovely weather the rest of the month and would really
find it distracting if I blew up my house from the fumes. Not to
mention it seems like it's a lot less hassle to use water based stuff.
(I've brushed Varathane poly w/success so the issue finding a good
product that is amenable to hvlp).
I do a little googling (including the wreck) and come up with
contradictory viewpoints on Varathane's water based poly. Some found
it hard to spray; others not so.
Hydrocote seems like a good choice. The Resithane product looks like
what I need. The local supplier has... - the Danish Oil - and nothing
else. So much for trying to get this done by the weekend.
So, unless I find that the Varathane product is sprayable, I'm gonna
have to mail order something.
Oh, quick is good too. If I could get 3 coats on in a day or less,
I'd be 'right happy. W/out sanding in between would make me
delirious. :-)
Suggestions, ideas, etc., please (PLEASE!).
(Gee, this is turning out to be a bigger adventure than I thought.
I've built kitchen cabs b4, but I guess I'm venturing into more new
territory than I realized with this hvlp stuff. It seems like jumping
right in isn't working).
Thanx!
Renata
Juvenal wrote:
>
> Sherwin Williams Sherwood Kem Aqua is more expensive, but always consistent
> in quality. Really a great product. Unfortunately, the customer service
> blows (except when it sucks) and it takes 2 -4 weeks for me to get the
> product after ordering,
M.L. Campbell Ultrastar is also a great product for those with spray
gear. I have a local paint store that sells it to me.
Many independent paint stores deal with professional finishes, but we
have to ask, as the stuff usually won't be displayed with the retail
product.
Yes to a vote for Target USL. It's great and sprays very well and you get
true burn in. These people give good service too. Cheers, JG
http://www.homesteadfinishing.com/
"dondone" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Take a look at targetcoatings.com. I have used both their conversion
> varnish and their ultimate spay lacquer (USL) - both are water based. I
> have been very satisfied with the results (I'm just completing a built-in
> wall unit with his & her desks using cherry finished with USL tinted with
> their tints) as has my neighbor. There is a user forum at their web site
> that is very informative on the use -they have been very responsive to
> user's questions. This is good stuff - the lacquer drys and sands like
> solvent-based lacquer but seems to be more durable.
> DLE
> "Renata" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> The short version (I hope).
>>
>> Here I thought I could start finishing the kitchen cabinets today in
>> the lovely 65F weather we're having. But, no-oo.
>>
>> Background: I have this lovely hvlp system raring to go and have now
>> decided it might be prudent to go with a water based product since...
>>
>> The Deft lacquer I have is apparently ill suited to kitchen use (6
>> (SIX!) coats?!?!? May turn white w/exposure to moisture.).
>>
>> And...
>>
>> I can't count on lovely weather the rest of the month and would really
>> find it distracting if I blew up my house from the fumes. Not to
>> mention it seems like it's a lot less hassle to use water based stuff.
>>
>> (I've brushed Varathane poly w/success so the issue finding a good
>> product that is amenable to hvlp).
>>
>> I do a little googling (including the wreck) and come up with
>> contradictory viewpoints on Varathane's water based poly. Some found
>> it hard to spray; others not so.
>>
>> Hydrocote seems like a good choice. The Resithane product looks like
>> what I need. The local supplier has... - the Danish Oil - and nothing
>> else. So much for trying to get this done by the weekend.
>>
>> So, unless I find that the Varathane product is sprayable, I'm gonna
>> have to mail order something.
>>
>> Oh, quick is good too. If I could get 3 coats on in a day or less,
>> I'd be 'right happy. W/out sanding in between would make me
>> delirious. :-)
>>
>> Suggestions, ideas, etc., please (PLEASE!).
>>
>> (Gee, this is turning out to be a bigger adventure than I thought.
>> I've built kitchen cabs b4, but I guess I'm venturing into more new
>> territory than I realized with this hvlp stuff. It seems like jumping
>> right in isn't working).
>>
>> Thanx!
>>
>> Renata
>
>
Renata <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> The short version (I hope).
>
<snip>
I have little to no personal experience, but there was a test/review in one
of the last couple of FWW issues. They did a range of waterbased finishes,
including brushing and spraying.
HTH. Good luck on the kitchen. I did prefinished birch ply for the one
we're working on, and the face frames, doors & drawers will get a wiping
varnish. Because I'm cheap, and my daughter-in-law, whose kitchen it is,
will do the bulk of that work anyhow.
Patriarch
Take a look at targetcoatings.com. I have used both their conversion
varnish and their ultimate spay lacquer (USL) - both are water based. I
have been very satisfied with the results (I'm just completing a built-in
wall unit with his & her desks using cherry finished with USL tinted with
their tints) as has my neighbor. There is a user forum at their web site
that is very informative on the use -they have been very responsive to
user's questions. This is good stuff - the lacquer drys and sands like
solvent-based lacquer but seems to be more durable.
DLE
"Renata" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The short version (I hope).
>
> Here I thought I could start finishing the kitchen cabinets today in
> the lovely 65F weather we're having. But, no-oo.
>
> Background: I have this lovely hvlp system raring to go and have now
> decided it might be prudent to go with a water based product since...
>
> The Deft lacquer I have is apparently ill suited to kitchen use (6
> (SIX!) coats?!?!? May turn white w/exposure to moisture.).
>
> And...
>
> I can't count on lovely weather the rest of the month and would really
> find it distracting if I blew up my house from the fumes. Not to
> mention it seems like it's a lot less hassle to use water based stuff.
>
> (I've brushed Varathane poly w/success so the issue finding a good
> product that is amenable to hvlp).
>
> I do a little googling (including the wreck) and come up with
> contradictory viewpoints on Varathane's water based poly. Some found
> it hard to spray; others not so.
>
> Hydrocote seems like a good choice. The Resithane product looks like
> what I need. The local supplier has... - the Danish Oil - and nothing
> else. So much for trying to get this done by the weekend.
>
> So, unless I find that the Varathane product is sprayable, I'm gonna
> have to mail order something.
>
> Oh, quick is good too. If I could get 3 coats on in a day or less,
> I'd be 'right happy. W/out sanding in between would make me
> delirious. :-)
>
> Suggestions, ideas, etc., please (PLEASE!).
>
> (Gee, this is turning out to be a bigger adventure than I thought.
> I've built kitchen cabs b4, but I guess I'm venturing into more new
> territory than I realized with this hvlp stuff. It seems like jumping
> right in isn't working).
>
> Thanx!
>
> Renata
"Renata" wrote...
> Hydrocote seems like a good choice. The Resithane product looks like
> what I need. The local supplier has... - the Danish Oil - and nothing
> else. So much for trying to get this done by the weekend.
I've been spraying water-based with hvlp for over 15 years now, and am very
happy with it, and I now use nitro lacq. only for musical instruments.
Our local Hydrocote supplier (Hood Finishing Products in NJ) has top-notch
service and usually gets product to me the day after I order.
Unfortunately, my experience with Hydrocote has been less satisfactory. I
figure I've sprayed about 100 gallons of it, by the 5 gal pails cluttering
the shop. I've found Hydrocote to be widely inconsistant in viscosity:
sometimes thick as pudding, other times thin as water. Once the flatting
agent was solidified on the bottom of the pail and couldn't be stirred in,
another the finish just wouldn't cure, another time it was contaminated with
something causing fisheye, another time contaminated with black specs. Most
of the time it was fine, of course, and the price is right and as I said,
the service excellent. Still, I had to bail on the product because every 5
gal pail was a crap shoot.
Sherwin Williams Sherwood Kem Aqua is more expensive, but always consistent
in quality. Really a great product. Unfortunately, the customer service
blows (except when it sucks) and it takes 2 -4 weeks for me to get the
product after ordering, unless I want to drive 50 miles to the warehouse
myself and pick it up. Adding insult to injury, when they get it in they
never have any idea what to charge me for it & ask me what I usually pay. I
always tell the saleskid 80 bucks for the pail, but they haven't bought that
one yet. >8^)
--
Timothy Juvenal
www.tjwoodworking.com