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[email protected] (Nate Perkins)

08/02/2004 8:03 PM

Web frames, drawer support methods

Hi,

I'm working on a machinist's style tool cabinet, similar to the one in
"The Toolbox Book," by Jim Tolpin. I've got little experience and I'm
looking for information on drawer supports.

Basically I'm confused on when it's best to use side-mounted drawer
guides as opposed to regular web frames. I'm also wondering if
there's a rule of thumb for the minimum thickness of a web frame,
depending on how much weight it has to support.

If anyone can point me to a general resource (book, etc), I'd
appreciate it.

Thanks,
Nate Perkins
Ft Collins, CO


This topic has 5 replies

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"George"

in reply to [email protected] (Nate Perkins) on 08/02/2004 8:03 PM

09/02/2004 6:18 AM

With proper guides you'll get better support for the open drawer, of course,
but if it's period or pattern you're after, you can be assured by the
pedigree that there's some merit in the old ways.

"Nate Perkins" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> I'm working on a machinist's style tool cabinet, similar to the one in
> "The Toolbox Book," by Jim Tolpin. I've got little experience and I'm
> looking for information on drawer supports.
>
> Basically I'm confused on when it's best to use side-mounted drawer
> guides as opposed to regular web frames. I'm also wondering if
> there's a rule of thumb for the minimum thickness of a web frame,
> depending on how much weight it has to support.

nN

[email protected] (Nate Perkins)

in reply to [email protected] (Nate Perkins) on 08/02/2004 8:03 PM

09/02/2004 12:12 PM

Unisaw A100 <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
> Side mounted slides are best when space (you lose and
> inchish) isn't a consideration.
>
> The "normal" minimum for a web frame is 3/4" thick with full
> size cabinets. For a Gerstner style too chest you could go
> down to 1/2" thick. Also, consider that the drawers are
> actually supported at the spot where the web frame meets the
> sides.

Excellent, thanks very much. The replies by you and the other poster
are exactly what I was looking for. This is a Gerstner style tool
chest, and I think I'll use 1/2" webs.

Cheers, Nate

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] (Nate Perkins) on 08/02/2004 8:03 PM

09/02/2004 4:14 AM

Nate, I almost always use web frames as I always have a divider between
drawers. The web frame helps to keep every thing is square also IMHO.
I always build them 3/4" thick and center 1/4" plywood in the field of the
frame. I have in the past built a center slide down the center of the
drawer and the web frame but have in recent years switched to building the
cabinets, chests, or what ever with tighter tolerances.

Now, that said, if I build a cheaper unit and have to cut costs for the
customer, I use the side mounted full extension slides.





"Nate Perkins" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
>
> I'm working on a machinist's style tool cabinet, similar to the one in
> "The Toolbox Book," by Jim Tolpin. I've got little experience and I'm
> looking for information on drawer supports.
>
> Basically I'm confused on when it's best to use side-mounted drawer
> guides as opposed to regular web frames. I'm also wondering if
> there's a rule of thumb for the minimum thickness of a web frame,
> depending on how much weight it has to support.
>
> If anyone can point me to a general resource (book, etc), I'd
> appreciate it.
>
> Thanks,
> Nate Perkins
> Ft Collins, CO

PK

Paul Kierstead

in reply to [email protected] (Nate Perkins) on 08/02/2004 8:03 PM

09/02/2004 9:26 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Nate Perkins) wrote:

> Unisaw A100 <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> >
> > Side mounted slides are best when space (you lose and
> > inchish) isn't a consideration.
> >
> > The "normal" minimum for a web frame is 3/4" thick with full
> > size cabinets. For a Gerstner style too chest you could go
> > down to 1/2" thick. Also, consider that the drawers are
> > actually supported at the spot where the web frame meets the
> > sides.
>
> Excellent, thanks very much. The replies by you and the other poster
> are exactly what I was looking for. This is a Gerstner style tool
> chest, and I think I'll use 1/2" webs.

I'd like to say thanks too. I am in the process of designing a printer
stand. I stock quite a few kinds of paper in various sizes and wanted a
lot of thin drawers and pretty much had the exact same question on my
mind and was about to ask it when you did..

Paul Kierstead

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to [email protected] (Nate Perkins) on 08/02/2004 8:03 PM

09/02/2004 10:38 AM

>I'm working on a machinist's style tool cabinet, similar to the one in
>"The Toolbox Book," by Jim Tolpin. I've got little experience and I'm
>looking for information on drawer supports.
>
>Basically I'm confused on when it's best to use side-mounted drawer
>guides as opposed to regular web frames. I'm also wondering if
>there's a rule of thumb for the minimum thickness of a web frame,
>depending on how much weight it has to support.

Side mounted slides are best when space (you lose and
inchish) isn't a consideration.

The "normal" minimum for a web frame is 3/4" thick with full
size cabinets. For a Gerstner style too chest you could go
down to 1/2" thick. Also, consider that the drawers are
actually supported at the spot where the web frame meets the
sides.

>If anyone can point me to a general resource (book, etc), I'd
>appreciate it.

Wish I could.

UA100


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