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[email protected] (MJ Wallace)

24/02/2004 11:32 AM

220 plugs - what kind?

The contractor building my new workshop has asked
what kind of 220 outlets do I want. Anyone have
had similiar experiences - what did you chose? Is
there a specific model type I should tell him?

I've seen the twist lock types and the straight
plugs like for a dryer, but are there others?

MJ Wallace


This topic has 11 replies

RG

"Rick Gibson"

in reply to [email protected] (MJ Wallace) on 24/02/2004 11:32 AM

24/02/2004 3:33 PM

Worked for Ontario Power Generation for over 25 years and they changed all
their field wiring to twist lock type plugs for safety reasons, they will
not accidently pull out. If your equipment comes with the flat type you
can get adaptors or do as I did and cut them off and put twist lock on.

R. Gibson

"MJ Wallace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The contractor building my new workshop has asked
> what kind of 220 outlets do I want. Anyone have
> had similiar experiences - what did you chose? Is
> there a specific model type I should tell him?
>
> I've seen the twist lock types and the straight
> plugs like for a dryer, but are there others?
>
> MJ Wallace

gG

in reply to [email protected] (MJ Wallace) on 24/02/2004 11:32 AM

25/02/2004 12:29 AM

If you don't want to go with twist locks install 240 @ 20a and the NEMA 6-20R.
It will accept the 240v 15a and 20a plug

Td

"TeamCasa"

in reply to [email protected] (MJ Wallace) on 24/02/2004 11:32 AM

24/02/2004 2:19 PM

MJ, I would suggest a 20 amp 3wire twist lock, these will be fine for most
of your machines.

When I built my shop, I put them where each machine was or going to be
located as well as a few extra for good measure. You can always change them
out should the need arise. I you have and welding machines, electric dryer
or heater, a higher rating (check label on machine) may be required.

You will have to change the cord cap (plug) on your machines but you won't
regret it. If money is tight, do not put them in at all. Just have the
electrician pull the wire and put a flat cover on the future boxes. This
way you can add them as needed.

Here is a sample
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/productdetail.jsp?xi=xi&ItemId=1611605272&ccitem=

Dave

"MJ Wallace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The contractor building my new workshop has asked
> what kind of 220 outlets do I want. Anyone have
> had similiar experiences - what did you chose? Is
> there a specific model type I should tell him?
>
> I've seen the twist lock types and the straight
> plugs like for a dryer, but are there others?
>
> MJ Wallace




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[email protected] (MJ Wallace)

in reply to [email protected] (MJ Wallace) on 24/02/2004 11:32 AM

26/02/2004 11:25 AM

Thanks to all that responded in this forum and to
the one who did so directly. You gave me some
terrific information that I passed along to
our contractor.

Again, thanks alot!

MJ Wallace

gn

gabriel

in reply to [email protected] (MJ Wallace) on 24/02/2004 11:32 AM

24/02/2004 7:38 PM

MJ Wallace wrote:

> The contractor building my new workshop has asked
> what kind of 220 outlets do I want. Anyone have
> had similiar experiences - what did you chose? Is
> there a specific model type I should tell him?
>
> I've seen the twist lock types and the straight
> plugs like for a dryer, but are there others?

Depends on the device, no?

--
gabriel

BD

"Bob Davis"

in reply to [email protected] (MJ Wallace) on 24/02/2004 11:32 AM

24/02/2004 10:09 PM

First choose twist lock or straight prong.

Then choose amperage to match the wiring you had installed. I put #12
wiring all around so installed 20 amp receptacles.

Bob

"MJ Wallace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The contractor building my new workshop has asked
> what kind of 220 outlets do I want. Anyone have
> had similiar experiences - what did you chose? Is
> there a specific model type I should tell him?
>
> I've seen the twist lock types and the straight
> plugs like for a dryer, but are there others?
>
> MJ Wallace

JJ

"JackD"

in reply to [email protected] (MJ Wallace) on 24/02/2004 11:32 AM

24/02/2004 11:48 AM

What are you going to plug into it?
There are different configurations for different amperages.
http://www.nema.org/index_nema.cfm/1427/7823F864-7A7E-4A94-97A310DB6B623EC0/


"MJ Wallace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The contractor building my new workshop has asked
> what kind of 220 outlets do I want. Anyone have
> had similiar experiences - what did you chose? Is
> there a specific model type I should tell him?
>
> I've seen the twist lock types and the straight
> plugs like for a dryer, but are there others?
>
> MJ Wallace

r

in reply to [email protected] (MJ Wallace) on 24/02/2004 11:32 AM

24/02/2004 9:54 PM

Rick Gibson <[email protected]> wrote:
> Worked for Ontario Power Generation for over 25 years and they changed all
> their field wiring to twist lock type plugs for safety reasons, they will
> not accidently pull out. If your equipment comes with the flat type you
> can get adaptors or do as I did and cut them off and put twist lock on.

I agree. I would go with twist-locks all the way. Replace any
non twist-lock plugs on any equipment, though most equipment in
that category comes without a plug, so you get to choose anyway.

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.

Ss

"Subw00er"

in reply to [email protected] (MJ Wallace) on 24/02/2004 11:32 AM

28/02/2004 4:35 PM

I'm using the 20 amp twist lock too. No complaints, works great.

"MJ Wallace" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The contractor building my new workshop has asked
> what kind of 220 outlets do I want. Anyone have
> had similiar experiences - what did you chose? Is
> there a specific model type I should tell him?
>
> I've seen the twist lock types and the straight
> plugs like for a dryer, but are there others?
>
> MJ Wallace

BD

"Bob Davis"

in reply to [email protected] (MJ Wallace) on 24/02/2004 11:32 AM

25/02/2004 4:47 PM

Good point, Greg. I put in the receptacles you suggested but forgot about
their flexibility. Many 220v only tools come with 15A plugs and these
receptacles accept them. I believe that he must have #12 or bigger wire to
use the 20 amp receptacles. Hopefully that's what his electrician pulled.

Bob

"Greg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> If you don't want to go with twist locks install 240 @ 20a and the NEMA
6-20R.
> It will accept the 240v 15a and 20a plug

RS

Roy Smith

in reply to [email protected] (MJ Wallace) on 24/02/2004 11:32 AM

25/02/2004 4:13 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "JackD" <[email protected]> wrote:

> What are you going to plug into it?
> There are different configurations for different amperages.
> http://www.nema.org/index_nema.cfm/1427/7823F864-7A7E-4A94-97A310DB6B623EC0/

A less official, but more convenient reference is

http://www.quail.com/nema.cfm

and I agree with the other poster who said a 6-20R is probably the way
to go. Most 220V equipment that you're likely to buy for a home shop
comes with a 6-15P or (less likely) 6-20P, either of which will plug
into a 6-20R.

You could go the twist-lock route, but my personal opinion is it's more
trouble than it's worth to change all the plugs.


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