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"L C"

04/03/2004 10:38 PM

Going to build a grandfather clock and I want it to be dark

Hello,

I am going to build a grandfather clock and I would like to stain it dark.
I saw on NY that they built one out of qtrsawn oak. I am correct to assume
it would be tough to stain that type of wood dark. Any ideas on what other
type of wood I could use.

Thanks

Larry C


This topic has 9 replies

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BRuce

in reply to "L C" on 04/03/2004 10:38 PM

04/03/2004 6:14 PM

Ipe ;-) you won't have to move it often either.

L C wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am going to build a grandfather clock and I would like to stain it dark.
> I saw on NY that they built one out of qtrsawn oak. I am correct to assume
> it would be tough to stain that type of wood dark. Any ideas on what other
> type of wood I could use.
>
> Thanks
>
> Larry C
>
>

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BRuce

pp

in reply to "L C" on 04/03/2004 10:38 PM

05/03/2004 8:21 AM

John Crea <[email protected]> wrote:

> Not really all that hard to stain qs oak dark, but WHY paid for
> beautiful wood then stain it to the point where the wood is not really
> showing it's true beauty??

For most oak pieces I prefer a dark finish. I think it shows the wood
better. It just isn't PC on the wreck. Of course you could answer most
questions on the wreck with just two answers: tune your cabinet saw or
buy a bigger jointer. If you let on that you don't have a cabinet saw,
then you are an idiot and can't/shouldn't be doing "woodworking." Please
note that you may still qualify as just a carpenter.


"Fuming discloses unsuspected qualities of beauty previously lying
concealed within it's heart" - Gustav Stickley

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "L C" on 04/03/2004 10:38 PM

04/03/2004 10:43 PM

Build it out of Walnut and you will not have to stain it to make it dark.


"L C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello,
>
> I am going to build a grandfather clock and I would like to stain it dark.
> I saw on NY that they built one out of qtrsawn oak. I am correct to
assume
> it would be tough to stain that type of wood dark. Any ideas on what
other
> type of wood I could use.
>
> Thanks
>
> Larry C
>
>

md

"mttt"

in reply to "L C" on 04/03/2004 10:38 PM

04/03/2004 11:44 PM


"L C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I am going to build a grandfather clock and I would like to stain it dark.

If you mean "Stain" as in Minwax or other off-the-shelf stains, then you'd
want to pick a wood that stains well (ie. an Oak) and avoid woods that stain
poorly [or are a challenge to stain well ] (ie. maple).

If you mean "stain" as in color - then you can dye just about any wood to
just about any color.


> I saw on NY that they built one out of qtrsawn oak. I am correct to
assume
> it would be tough to stain that type of wood dark.

QSWO is a pretty cut of wood. No, I would not assume it's tough to stain or
dye that wood dark at all. I've only dyed it dark, but have read articles
where they've done it.

GP

"Grant P. Beagles"

in reply to "L C" on 04/03/2004 10:38 PM

05/03/2004 6:55 AM

I built a hope chest out of quarter sawn white oak for a lady who wanted it
dark. I used NGR dye with great results. The chest was DARK, but the grain was
clear and the ray flecks were spectacular!

Grant



John Crea wrote:

> Not really all that hard to stain qs oak dark, but WHY paid for
> beautiful wood then stain it to the point where the wood is not really
> showing it's true beauty?? If your ARE going to stain really dark,
> build it out of plywood, will cost a ton less
>
> John
>
> On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 22:38:09 GMT, "L C" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Hello,
> >
> >I am going to build a grandfather clock and I would like to stain it dark.
> >I saw on NY that they built one out of qtrsawn oak. I am correct to assume
> >it would be tough to stain that type of wood dark. Any ideas on what other
> >type of wood I could use.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Larry C
> >

JC

John Crea

in reply to "L C" on 04/03/2004 10:38 PM

04/03/2004 8:45 PM

Not really all that hard to stain qs oak dark, but WHY paid for
beautiful wood then stain it to the point where the wood is not really
showing it's true beauty?? If your ARE going to stain really dark,
build it out of plywood, will cost a ton less

John

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 22:38:09 GMT, "L C" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I am going to build a grandfather clock and I would like to stain it dark.
>I saw on NY that they built one out of qtrsawn oak. I am correct to assume
>it would be tough to stain that type of wood dark. Any ideas on what other
>type of wood I could use.
>
>Thanks
>
>Larry C
>

PA

"Preston Andreas"

in reply to "L C" on 04/03/2004 10:38 PM

05/03/2004 11:26 PM

Actually, I consider the oaks as woods that should be dyed or stained. With
just a clear coat, the wood is very uninteresting. The trick with
quartersawn white oak is to keep the ray flecks light.

BTW, do you have a cabinet saw and how big is your jointer? Just kidding.

Preston

"p_j" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1ga5zll.qqiezu16tj534N%[email protected]...
> John Crea <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Not really all that hard to stain qs oak dark, but WHY paid for
> > beautiful wood then stain it to the point where the wood is not really
> > showing it's true beauty??
>
> For most oak pieces I prefer a dark finish. I think it shows the wood
> better. It just isn't PC on the wreck. Of course you could answer most
> questions on the wreck with just two answers: tune your cabinet saw or
> buy a bigger jointer. If you let on that you don't have a cabinet saw,
> then you are an idiot and can't/shouldn't be doing "woodworking." Please
> note that you may still qualify as just a carpenter.
>
>
> "Fuming discloses unsuspected qualities of beauty previously lying
> concealed within it's heart" - Gustav Stickley

PA

"Preston Andreas"

in reply to "L C" on 04/03/2004 10:38 PM

05/03/2004 12:41 AM

Typically, arts & crafts or mission furniture was quartersawn oak and it was
fumed with ammonia to achieve a dark brown with lighter ray flecks. For a
less toxic approach, check out
http://homesteadfinishing.com/htdocs/mission_oak.htm .

Preston
"L C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello,
>
> I am going to build a grandfather clock and I would like to stain it dark.
> I saw on NY that they built one out of qtrsawn oak. I am correct to
assume
> it would be tough to stain that type of wood dark. Any ideas on what
other
> type of wood I could use.
>
> Thanks
>
> Larry C
>
>

YF

"Young_carpenter"

in reply to "L C" on 04/03/2004 10:38 PM

04/03/2004 6:09 PM

thinking the same thing.
But no It would not be hard to stain oak dark. It is open grained leaving
it receptive to the pigments of stain. You might also consider dye.

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"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Build it out of Walnut and you will not have to stain it to make it dark.
>
>
> "L C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am going to build a grandfather clock and I would like to stain it
dark.
> > I saw on NY that they built one out of qtrsawn oak. I am correct to
> assume
> > it would be tough to stain that type of wood dark. Any ideas on what
> other
> > type of wood I could use.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Larry C
> >
> >
>
>



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