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rllipham

06/01/2004 8:28 PM

What tool do you have that is "too dumb to die"? -- Thanks George

The "too dumb to die" idea was from an earlier post from George
Kazaka.

What power tool do you have that will not die?

I have a Black & Decker 12V drill that will not die. I bought it used
with a charger and 2 batteries. Built two shops with OSB walls and
deck screws. Screwed metal roofs on the same. Drilled, dropped, kicked
and left in the rain.

SWMBO bought me a Dewalt 18V set. Still grab the B&D for light jobs
simply due to weight. SWMBO always asks me why?

B&D you gotta die.........


This topic has 21 replies

TT

Test Tickle

in reply to rllipham on 06/01/2004 8:28 PM

07/01/2004 3:35 AM

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:28:53 GMT, rllipham <[email protected]>
wrote:

>The "too dumb to die" idea was from an earlier post from George
>Kazaka.
>
>What power tool do you have that will not die?
>

I have an old 1/2 " Skil three-prong drill that I inherited from my
old man. It's never had the third prong in my living memory, and it
has been abused. I used it for disc-sanding bondo on a '68 Mustang
back in the mid-seventies -- the car was mostly bondo.

Several years back I had the mortar-mixing attachment chucked in it
while preparing thin-set for a bathroom floor. I accidental-like hit
the "hold" button, the mixer hit a big dry lump, wrenched the tool
from my grip (nearly spraining a wrist), and hit high speed, twirling
itself around until the cord wrapped itself so tight it unplugged
itself -- leaving some nice black rubber marks on a newly plastered
wall. I threw out the mix, split the ice bucket 50-50 between my wrist
and a bottle of Bushmills, and hit the easy chair.

I'd like to kill that dril, but it's still going.

tt

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to rllipham on 06/01/2004 8:28 PM

07/01/2004 3:30 AM

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 19:05:37 -0500, Mike Patterson
<[email protected]> brought forth from the
murky depths:

>I've beat the heck out of it, I'd love to get a "real" floorstanding
>drill press, but can't justify the expense as a long as I can get by
>with this thing.
>
>I think I need a power tool "hit man".

Advertise it for sale in the newspaper and once it's sold,
you'll have ample reason to go buy a new one.


=========================================================
The Titanic. The Hindenburg. + http://www.diversify.com
The Clintons. + Website & Graphic Design
=========================================================

MJ

"Mark Jerde"

in reply to rllipham on 06/01/2004 8:28 PM

07/01/2004 1:38 AM

Silvan wrote:

> I can't begin to relate the number of times I've attempted to kill
> this thing.

Can it swim? <eg> Maybe a dead goldfish detector?

-- Mark

Sd

Silvan

in reply to rllipham on 06/01/2004 8:28 PM

06/01/2004 8:27 PM

rllipham wrote:

> What power tool do you have that will not die?

I have a total POS B&D 1/3 sheet orbital sander. The kind with the fiber
pad on the bottom. (Notice I said "orbital." It's not a ROS.)

I can't begin to relate the number of times I've attempted to kill this
thing. The pad is rounded over and gouged, the clamps are bent, the orange
rubber switch cover is dry rotted... It's a complete POS, but it will not
die.

The first power tool I ever bought, now that I think about it. It's
original purpose in life was shaping Bondo fenders.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

VR

Victor Radin

in reply to rllipham on 06/01/2004 8:28 PM

07/01/2004 12:24 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> The "too dumb to die" idea was from an earlier post from George
> Kazaka.
>
> What power tool do you have that will not die?
>
Two actually- both from my father. A Sears Craftsman circular saw from
early 50's, complete with case, and replacement blades. It still works
perfectly except for the weight and the single-almost-insulation of an
old 3-prong cord. The other is a well-worn "pad" sander, also Craftsamn
I think, same vintage.

Then there's the hand tools, dovetail jig, and best of all- a copy of
Machinerys Handbook from 1949, one of his college texts, tucked into his
toolchest.

JW

Jim Wilson

in reply to rllipham on 06/01/2004 8:28 PM

07/01/2004 1:58 AM

rllipham wrote...
> What power tool do you have that will not die?

Despite my best efforts to kill it, an old POS B&D router of mine still
turns on every time the trigger is squeezed. I regret it just about every
time, too. I think it has a Craftsman-clone "depth randomizer" collet --
you know, the kind that encourages the bit to climb out of the collet and
ever deeper into the work as you go. My wife keeps telling me to sell it,
but I have too much respect for my fellow man.

Jim

Rr

"RKON"

in reply to rllipham on 06/01/2004 8:28 PM

06/01/2004 5:38 PM

I have a 7" Power House circular saw and Drill made by McGraw Edison. They
are both made out of Stainless Steel??? I think, because they have not
rusted and are shiny and mettalic. LOL

I purchased them 10 years ago along with some old hand tools from an old
widow for $25. Does anyone know anything about them? how old are they?

These things are Heavyyyyyyy.


Rich


"rllipham" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The "too dumb to die" idea was from an earlier post from George
> Kazaka.
>
> What power tool do you have that will not die?
>
> I have a Black & Decker 12V drill that will not die. I bought it used
> with a charger and 2 batteries. Built two shops with OSB walls and
> deck screws. Screwed metal roofs on the same. Drilled, dropped, kicked
> and left in the rain.
>
> SWMBO bought me a Dewalt 18V set. Still grab the B&D for light jobs
> simply due to weight. SWMBO always asks me why?
>
> B&D you gotta die.........

DP

"Dan Parrell"

in reply to rllipham on 06/01/2004 8:28 PM

06/01/2004 11:07 PM

Makita 3/8'' reverseable drill.I used it commercially for 10 years put in a
million screws had the cord broken many times over. It's now over 25 years
old and won't die,still on the same brushes, contemplating on having a
keyless chuck installed in it
"Jim Wilson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> rllipham wrote...
> > What power tool do you have that will not die?
>
> Despite my best efforts to kill it, an old POS B&D router of mine still
> turns on every time the trigger is squeezed. I regret it just about every
> time, too. I think it has a Craftsman-clone "depth randomizer" collet --
> you know, the kind that encourages the bit to climb out of the collet and
> ever deeper into the work as you go. My wife keeps telling me to sell it,
> but I have too much respect for my fellow man.
>
> Jim

MC

Mike Coonrod

in reply to rllipham on 06/01/2004 8:28 PM

09/01/2004 2:27 PM

This is how I got my unisaw, wife said, well sell the old one. I had a
new unisaw a month later, got 200 for my old one. I would have given
the old ts away but I needed to tell her I got somehting for it!



Mike Patterson wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 03:30:23 GMT, Larry Jaques
> <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>
>
>>On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 19:05:37 -0500, Mike Patterson
>><[email protected]> brought forth from the
>>murky depths:
>>
>>
>>>I've beat the heck out of it, I'd love to get a "real" floorstanding
>>>drill press, but can't justify the expense as a long as I can get by
>>>with this thing.
>>>
>>>I think I need a power tool "hit man".
>>
>>Advertise it for sale in the newspaper and once it's sold,
>>you'll have ample reason to go buy a new one.
>>
>>
>>=========================================================
>>The Titanic. The Hindenburg. + http://www.diversify.com
>> The Clintons. + Website & Graphic Design
>>=========================================================
>
>
> Now see? That's why I hang around here, so smart fellas like you can
> hit me with a clue stick once in a while... thanks.
>
> That's just what I'll do.
>
> Mike

bb

"bob"

in reply to rllipham on 06/01/2004 8:28 PM

06/01/2004 10:27 PM

The first power tool I ever owned. A Craftsman Type III 3/8" reversible
drill that I bought at Sears when I was about 13 years old. That makes the
drill 36 years old. I think I paid something like 30 bucks for that drill.
It still runs, losing power, but it won't die. I get it out every once in a
while for old times sake.

Bob

"rllipham" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The "too dumb to die" idea was from an earlier post from George
> Kazaka.
>
> What power tool do you have that will not die?
>
> I have a Black & Decker 12V drill that will not die. I bought it used
> with a charger and 2 batteries. Built two shops with OSB walls and
> deck screws. Screwed metal roofs on the same. Drilled, dropped, kicked
> and left in the rain.
>
> SWMBO bought me a Dewalt 18V set. Still grab the B&D for light jobs
> simply due to weight. SWMBO always asks me why?
>
> B&D you gotta die.........

GG

Greg G.

in reply to rllipham on 06/01/2004 8:28 PM

06/01/2004 4:30 PM

rllipham said:

>The "too dumb to die" idea was from an earlier post from George
>Kazaka.
>
>What power tool do you have that will not die?

A 32 year old B&D jigsaw bought when I was 13.
Real POS, accuracy wise, but it won't die...


Greg G.

Sd

Silvan

in reply to rllipham on 06/01/2004 8:28 PM

07/01/2004 10:48 AM

Mark Jerde wrote:

>> I can't begin to relate the number of times I've attempted to kill
>> this thing.
>
> Can it swim? <eg> Maybe a dead goldfish detector?

Heh, if the goldfish aren't dead, they will be after I detect'em. :)

(Incidentally, at least one of the goldfish is still alive after all that
Oxy-Clean. The water has been flushed twice, but it's still sudsy. The
lone fish comes to the surface once in awhile. Maybe s/he has kin hiding
below.)

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to rllipham on 06/01/2004 8:28 PM

06/01/2004 10:43 PM

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:28:53 GMT, rllipham <[email protected]>
wrote:

>The "too dumb to die" idea was from an earlier post from George
>Kazaka.
>
>What power tool do you have that will not die?
>
>I have a Black & Decker 12V drill that will not die. I bought it used
>with a charger and 2 batteries. Built two shops with OSB walls and
>deck screws. Screwed metal roofs on the same. Drilled, dropped, kicked
>and left in the rain.
>
>SWMBO bought me a Dewalt 18V set. Still grab the B&D for light jobs
>simply due to weight. SWMBO always asks me why?
>
>B&D you gotta die.........


Funny. I have a B&D Pro Palm sander, perhaps the oldest power tool in
the shop, that keeps on going after 15 years. Last year I bought a PC
ROS QuickSand 333 and had problems with the dust canister falling off,
but customer support sent me a replacement. The B&D palm sander is
truly a fine power tool, but they (B&D) don't make them like this
anymore.

MP

Mike Patterson

in reply to rllipham on 06/01/2004 8:28 PM

06/01/2004 7:05 PM

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:28:53 GMT, rllipham <[email protected]>
wrote:

>The "too dumb to die" idea was from an earlier post from George
>Kazaka.
>
>What power tool do you have that will not die?
>
<SNIP>


An El Cheapo benchtop drill press.

I've beat the heck out of it, I'd love to get a "real" floorstanding
drill press, but can't justify the expense as a long as I can get by
with this thing.

I think I need a power tool "hit man".

Mike

CC

Clif

in reply to rllipham on 06/01/2004 8:28 PM

06/01/2004 4:32 PM

On 06 Jan 2004 15:44:03 -0500, DJ Delorie <[email protected]> wrote:

>rllipham <[email protected]> writes:
>
>> The "too dumb to die" idea was from an earlier post from George
>> Kazaka.
>>
>> What power tool do you have that will not die?
>
>A few stories:
>
>First, I have a 3/8" single speed single direction drill that my
>grandfather owned. He got it from a demo at Sears (back when they did
>demos at Sears) - the guy had been drilling with that drill all day,
>then my grandfather used it forever, now I use it (when appropriate; I
>have a collection of drills now).
>
>Second, I dropped my PC690 down two stories onto a concrete slab while
>we were building our house. Chipped the bit that was in it, chipped
>the base, the motor sticks in the housing a bit now (plunge base, so
>it doesn't matter), but otherwise it still works fine.
>
>Third, my favorite... I still have the pine toolbox I build in boy
>scouts about 20 years ago. It's been through pretty much everything,
>including college, many moves, many projects, many car trips, and a
>basement flooding a few weeks ago.


I fully understand about drills that last forever. Darn near broke my
wrist with a 1/2" metal cased drill I inherited from My grandpa. The
thing is still going strong, only about 300 rpm, but will not stop.

Clif

JC

Jeff Cochran

in reply to rllipham on 06/01/2004 8:28 PM

07/01/2004 3:48 AM

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 16:30:46 -0500, Greg G. wrote:

>rllipham said:
>
>>The "too dumb to die" idea was from an earlier post from George
>>Kazaka.
>>
>>What power tool do you have that will not die?
>
>A 32 year old B&D jigsaw bought when I was 13.
>Real POS, accuracy wise, but it won't die...

Possibly the same one I have. 28 years and counting, and I blew
$14.95 on it at the time because I couldn't wait for it to go on sale.

Matches up with the Montgomery Ward (B&D) circular sqaw. That one
cost $29.95 and has had about 150 new blades over the years. Haven't
even replaced brushes.

Jeff

EE

Ehvee8or

in reply to rllipham on 06/01/2004 8:28 PM

07/01/2004 3:05 PM

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:28:53 GMT, rllipham <[email protected]>
wrote:

>The "too dumb to die" idea was from an earlier post from George
>Kazaka.
>
>What power tool do you have that will not die?
>
>I have a Black & Decker 12V drill that will not die. I bought it used
>with a charger and 2 batteries. Built two shops with OSB walls and
>deck screws. Screwed metal roofs on the same. Drilled, dropped, kicked
>and left in the rain.
>
>SWMBO bought me a Dewalt 18V set. Still grab the B&D for light jobs
>simply due to weight. SWMBO always asks me why?
>
>B&D you gotta die.........

Craftsman 1/5hp jig saw that I got as an Xmas present from my parents
when I moved out of their house and into a real fixxer upper...about
25 years old
Skil 1/4" single speed/direction drill that used to belong to my
dad...about 35 years old

-------

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"
- Arthur C Clarke

GG

Greg G.

in reply to rllipham on 06/01/2004 8:28 PM

07/01/2004 2:40 AM

Jeff Cochran said:

>On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 16:30:46 -0500, Greg G. wrote:
>>
>>A 32 year old B&D jigsaw bought when I was 13.
>>Real POS, accuracy wise, but it won't die...
>
>Possibly the same one I have. 28 years and counting, and I blew
>$14.95 on it at the time because I couldn't wait for it to go on sale.
>
>Matches up with the Montgomery Ward (B&D) circular sqaw. That one
>cost $29.95 and has had about 150 new blades over the years. Haven't
>even replaced brushes.

Might be the same one. I paid about $15 for it. It still works, but
doesn't hold the blade angle accurately anymore (if it ever did).

Actually, I have another 'tool' I WISH would die, A 1961 Crapsman pad
sander with an all metal case. Useless as a sander, the pad is ragged
out, and it gets too hot to hold in about 10 minutes. I even bolted
the pad to a board and used it to vibrate concrete forms last year,
but it just won't die!


Greg G.

MP

Mike Patterson

in reply to rllipham on 06/01/2004 8:28 PM

06/01/2004 11:34 PM

On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 03:30:23 GMT, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 19:05:37 -0500, Mike Patterson
><[email protected]> brought forth from the
>murky depths:
>
>>I've beat the heck out of it, I'd love to get a "real" floorstanding
>>drill press, but can't justify the expense as a long as I can get by
>>with this thing.
>>
>>I think I need a power tool "hit man".
>
>Advertise it for sale in the newspaper and once it's sold,
>you'll have ample reason to go buy a new one.
>
>
>=========================================================
> The Titanic. The Hindenburg. + http://www.diversify.com
> The Clintons. + Website & Graphic Design
>=========================================================

Now see? That's why I hang around here, so smart fellas like you can
hit me with a clue stick once in a while... thanks.

That's just what I'll do.

Mike

DD

DJ Delorie

in reply to rllipham on 06/01/2004 8:28 PM

06/01/2004 3:44 PM

rllipham <[email protected]> writes:

> The "too dumb to die" idea was from an earlier post from George
> Kazaka.
>
> What power tool do you have that will not die?

A few stories:

First, I have a 3/8" single speed single direction drill that my
grandfather owned. He got it from a demo at Sears (back when they did
demos at Sears) - the guy had been drilling with that drill all day,
then my grandfather used it forever, now I use it (when appropriate; I
have a collection of drills now).

Second, I dropped my PC690 down two stories onto a concrete slab while
we were building our house. Chipped the bit that was in it, chipped
the base, the motor sticks in the housing a bit now (plunge base, so
it doesn't matter), but otherwise it still works fine.

Third, my favorite... I still have the pine toolbox I build in boy
scouts about 20 years ago. It's been through pretty much everything,
including college, many moves, many projects, many car trips, and a
basement flooding a few weeks ago.

lL

[email protected] (Lawrence Wasserman)

in reply to rllipham on 06/01/2004 8:28 PM

07/01/2004 5:06 PM

Over 25 years ago I paid $5 for a used circular saw marked "Skil
Shop" at a yard sale. This thing is a dull orange color, sidewinder,
all metal construction. I did install a new on-off switch maybe 15
years ago and I seem to recall replacing the arbor bolt as well.
I've used it for every type of job including using masonry blades
to cut concrete and cutting out a section of built-up roof on a
150 year old row house that had several layers of mineral roll roofing
on top of standing-seam steel on top of cedar shakes. Built a few
decks with it and any number of homeowner type projects. I've often
had the desire to buy a good quality PC or Dewalt but can't justify it
to myself as long as that old thing still runs.
--

Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]


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