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05/10/2006 2:47 PM

Conventional miter vs sliding

Any thoughts on a 12" conventional miter saw vs. a 10" sliding miter
saw?

I know there is a decent price difference. Will I use the slider much
more?

Just curious.


PS as far as project, I a new , but so far pretty diverse.


This topic has 12 replies

bb

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/10/2006 2:47 PM

05/10/2006 3:57 PM

Cool, how about a 12" slider vs a 10" (I know 2" more, lol)



Dave Jackson wrote:
> I've had both. Wouldn't trade my latest 12" slider (DW718) for any of the
> past 5 saws I've had. I can cross cut around 30" by cutting the panel and
> flipping it over to continue the cut. Capacity is the greatest advantage to
> a slider. If you cut wider stuff regularly, get one. If you don't need the
> capacity, get a conventional miter. --dave
>
>
>
> "Dave Bugg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >> Any thoughts on a 12" conventional miter saw vs. a 10" sliding miter
> >> saw?
> >>
> >> I know there is a decent price difference. Will I use the slider much
> >> more?
> >
> > There are many times when I wish I had the slider version of my Dewalt 12"
> > CMS.
> >
> > --
> > Dave
> > www.davebbq.com
> >
> >
> >

d

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/10/2006 2:47 PM

05/10/2006 4:06 PM


[email protected] wrote:

> Any thoughts on a 12" conventional miter saw vs. a 10" sliding miter
> saw?

Are you a shopfitter / housebuild carpenter who spends all day
crosscutting 2x4s?
If not, then a non-sliding saw will be of little or no use to you. If
you must have such a thing (and they aren't cheap), then go for a
slider.


PS - I read this subject first and thought "How could you be puzzled
over choosing between a mitre joint vs. a sliding dovetail?" I guess
it's time to grow myself one of those Amish beards and get some check
shirts....

Mm

"Mike"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/10/2006 2:47 PM

06/10/2006 5:52 AM


[email protected] wrote:
> Any thoughts on a 12" conventional miter saw vs. a 10" sliding miter
> saw?
>


I've just recently went through this decision process. I ended up with
the Bosh 4410L 10" slider. I love it. The main reason I decided on a
10" slider is that it has a good cross cut capacity, around 12.5" -
only slightly less than a 12" slider, but much less expensive. Also,
the table saw uses 10" blades, so I have a few of them on hand if I
need to send a blade out for sharpening.

BTW, the Bosch was "dead on" accurate out of the box. I spent a good
bit of time making test cuts at various miter/bevel angles and didn't
have to make any adjustments to the angle stops.

One last note - when I purchased the saw, about a month ago, I was able
to get next day shipping for about $10 thru amazon.com. How they can
ship an 80+lb box overnight for $10, I don't know, but I checked it
three times and that's what came up.

Good luck

Mike

Mm

"Mike"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/10/2006 2:47 PM

06/10/2006 5:52 AM


[email protected] wrote:
> Any thoughts on a 12" conventional miter saw vs. a 10" sliding miter
> saw?
>


I've just recently went through this decision process. I ended up with
the Bosh 4410L 10" slider. I love it. The main reason I decided on a
10" slider is that it has a good cross cut capacity, around 12.5" -
only slightly less than a 12" slider, but much less expensive. Also,
the table saw uses 10" blades, so I have a few of them on hand if I
need to send a blade out for sharpening.

BTW, the Bosch was "dead on" accurate out of the box. I spent a good
bit of time making test cuts at various miter/bevel angles and didn't
have to make any adjustments to the angle stops.

One last note - when I purchased the saw, about a month ago, I was able
to get next day shipping for about $10 thru amazon.com. How they can
ship an 80+lb box overnight for $10, I don't know, but I checked it
three times and that's what came up.

Good luck

Mike

HN

"HotRod"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/10/2006 2:47 PM

06/10/2006 11:31 AM

You need to tell us what projects you are going to tackle with it. I bought
the DEwalt 12" slider and Stand when it first came out and love it but also
ended up buying a cheap 10" miter for it's portability. If your like me and
you don't need the saw all the time setting it up and moving a large 12" or
10" slider can be a real pain. On that note a slider will doa lot of cuts
that a miter saw can't. If you need to groove out a 1" deep and 1" wide path
through a 2x4 or 2x6 etc. you just set the slider depth to only cut 1" and
work it across your cut. It's nice and flush and fast. I also prefer to cut
from front to back with my 12" slider and make multiple passes on finishing
work instead of on big cut.

DJ

"Dave Jackson"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/10/2006 2:47 PM

05/10/2006 10:04 PM

I've had both. Wouldn't trade my latest 12" slider (DW718) for any of the
past 5 saws I've had. I can cross cut around 30" by cutting the panel and
flipping it over to continue the cut. Capacity is the greatest advantage to
a slider. If you cut wider stuff regularly, get one. If you don't need the
capacity, get a conventional miter. --dave



"Dave Bugg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Any thoughts on a 12" conventional miter saw vs. a 10" sliding miter
>> saw?
>>
>> I know there is a decent price difference. Will I use the slider much
>> more?
>
> There are many times when I wish I had the slider version of my Dewalt 12"
> CMS.
>
> --
> Dave
> www.davebbq.com
>
>
>

md

mac davis

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/10/2006 2:47 PM

06/10/2006 10:33 AM

On 5 Oct 2006 14:47:32 -0700, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Any thoughts on a 12" conventional miter saw vs. a 10" sliding miter
>saw?
>
>I know there is a decent price difference. Will I use the slider much
>more?
>
>Just curious.
>
>
>PS as far as project, I a new , but so far pretty diverse.

I think it depends on not only what you plan on cutting, but on what other tools
you have or plan to buy..

IMO, my 10" non-slide works fine for what I use it for, which is mainly long
stuff like 2x4's or trim that I don't want to use my RAS on..

(OK, that aren't worth clearing off the clutter and finding my RAS for)

If you don't have a table or radial arm, I'd say you'll get a lot of use out of
the slider...

My concern is twist or whatever that causes inaccurate cuts, which used to be a
big problem with sliders...
From the other responses, I'd guess that it's an issue that has been corrected?

Mac

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https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm

DB

"Dave Bugg"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/10/2006 2:47 PM

05/10/2006 2:54 PM

[email protected] wrote:

> Any thoughts on a 12" conventional miter saw vs. a 10" sliding miter
> saw?
>
> I know there is a decent price difference. Will I use the slider much
> more?

There are many times when I wish I had the slider version of my Dewalt 12"
CMS.

--
Dave
www.davebbq.com


Ll

Leuf

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/10/2006 2:47 PM

05/10/2006 7:19 PM

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 22:38:12 GMT, "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Any thoughts on a 12" conventional miter saw vs. a 10" sliding miter
>> saw?
>>
>As you well know, it depends entirely on what you will be using it for.
>If you will be cutting wood too thick for a 10", a 10" slider is useless.
>If you will be cutting wood too wide for a 12", a non-sliding 12" is
>useless.
>There is a market for both because people have different needs.
>
>In normal woodworking you will come across wide wood more often then thick
>wood; so a 10" slider is probably more useful. Is it more useful enough to
>justify the price? That depends on your cash flow and your room.

The Bosch 10" single bevel slider is a good buy when you factor in
that it comes with a pretty good blade, and how much a good 12" blade
costs.

The main thing about sliders is be prepared for how much space they
take up. I'm planning on putting mine on the wall with the stairs and
bumping out the wall behind it. I'm sure I'll get around to that any
day now.


-Leuf

TT

"Toller"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/10/2006 2:47 PM

05/10/2006 10:38 PM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Any thoughts on a 12" conventional miter saw vs. a 10" sliding miter
> saw?
>
As you well know, it depends entirely on what you will be using it for.
If you will be cutting wood too thick for a 10", a 10" slider is useless.
If you will be cutting wood too wide for a 12", a non-sliding 12" is
useless.
There is a market for both because people have different needs.

In normal woodworking you will come across wide wood more often then thick
wood; so a 10" slider is probably more useful. Is it more useful enough to
justify the price? That depends on your cash flow and your room.

DJ

"Dave Jackson"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/10/2006 2:47 PM

06/10/2006 12:02 AM



I seriously looked at 10" sliders, but ultimately went with the 12" for the
extra capacity. I'm a carpenter for a living, so there are times when the
big saw comes in handy on the job, (finishing work only!) however, I
bought this saw primarily for the shop to cross cut panels. The downside is
sliders need more room, are more expensive, are not that portable. I doubt
there is that much difference in the weight or space needed for a 10" vs 12"
but the 12" will be somewhat more spendy --dave

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Cool, how about a 12" slider vs a 10" (I know 2" more, lol)
>
>
>
> Dave Jackson wrote:
>> I've had both. Wouldn't trade my latest 12" slider (DW718) for any of
>> the
>> past 5 saws I've had. I can cross cut around 30" by cutting the panel
>> and
>> flipping it over to continue the cut. Capacity is the greatest advantage
>> to
>> a slider. If you cut wider stuff regularly, get one. If you don't need
>> the
>> capacity, get a conventional miter. --dave
>>
>>
>>
>> "Dave Bugg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > [email protected] wrote:
>> >
>> >> Any thoughts on a 12" conventional miter saw vs. a 10" sliding miter
>> >> saw?
>> >>
>> >> I know there is a decent price difference. Will I use the slider much
>> >> more?
>> >
>> > There are many times when I wish I had the slider version of my Dewalt
>> > 12"
>> > CMS.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Dave
>> > www.davebbq.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>

Ss

"Salmo"

in reply to "[email protected]" on 05/10/2006 2:47 PM

07/10/2006 11:51 AM

I had a Delta 10" mitre saw.....plain - just did straight forward cuts. I
have it away when I switched to a Makita 12" sliding compound saw and would
NEVER, EVER, go back to any 10" - sliding or otherwise.

For one thing, even a standard 12" would allow cutting thicker wood than a
10". For example, cutting 4 X 4 posts I had to rotate the wood on the 10"
to complete the cut.

Now - when are the 14 inchers coming out :O).

Keith P.


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