I've been somewhat interested in the Bessey sale, but not interested enough
to buy one of the various packages. I don't like to buy sizes that I really
don't want just to get a good price. I found that Hartville Tool is selling
the clamps one at a time at the sale price. This was perfect. I wanted four
12" clamps. They are backordered right now, but expect new shipment in 2-3
weeks. I am willing to wait.
Bob
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BillyBob <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Gary" <do not [email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > > Hartville has already accepted my order at the sale price. I
> > > double-checked
> > > with them - its only a matter of delayed delivery - not a coin toss.
> > >
> > Good for you!! I agree, being able to pick out the specific clamps you
> want
> > is better. I'm just leery when they say "while supplies lasts" and
> deliver
> > October 30. What's up with that?
>
> I really don't know. What is up is their reputation. I got an email that
> said "Due to the high demand created by the 25th Bessey Anniversary Sale,
> the clamps are currently on backorder. Our apologies for the delay. We do
> expect our next shipment withing the next 2-3 weeks and will ship them out
> for you asap after they arrive."
>
> Nobody else that I could find would sell individual clamps so I have nothing
> to lose. If they do not honor this order, they will permanently go on my "do
> not buy" list and I will, of course, dutifully whine and moan about it in
> here. Like many people here, when we order over the internet, we start with
> Lee Valley. I'm sure that Robin Lee would clearly state that sometimes their
> business conditions are such that they cannot compete or won't.
>
> Bob
Hi Bob,
Thanks for the heads-up.
I was thinking that only LV & WCraft had some sort of deal.
I have ordered (router bits) from Hartville recently and have
been very satisfied with their service.
I think that this is a good time to expand (if not complete)
my Bessey "collection." I want to make one more clamp
buy before the end of the month. Gives me more to think
about.
I also find the 12 inchers very ueful - in some ways,
more so than larger sizes (clamping to bench etc).
Again, thanks.
Lou
BillyBob wrote:
> I've been somewhat interested in the Bessey sale, but not interested enough
> to buy one of the various packages. I don't like to buy sizes that I really
> don't want just to get a good price. I found that Hartville Tool is selling
> the clamps one at a time at the sale price. This was perfect. I wanted four
> 12" clamps.
How do the 12" Besseys help you?
I could never get myself to pull the trigger on short K-Bodies. I love
the longer versions due to the low deflection beam, etc... that are
weaknesses of lighter clamps.
Convince me. <G>
Barry
"loutent" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I also find the 12 inchers very ueful - in some ways,
> more so than larger sizes (clamping to bench etc).
I've never used the 12", but I just knew they would be useful. You've made
me anxious to get them.
Bob
"B a r r y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I have a mountain of "F" clamps. What do you mean by "sit still"? I
> can see where the smaller K's would stand up on the bench, but usually
Sorry I did not reply sooner. I did not realize this thread was still active
(gotta bet me a better newsreader).
"won't sit still" is my description of what happens when an F-clamp is used
to clamp something that has less than 2" wide flat surface. A good example
is using the f-clamp with the screw side "button" face against a 3/4" wood
edge. Unless you center it perfectly, it will tend to slide off to the
slide. A bessey k-body clamps just fine across a relatively thin edge, if
there is something flat on the other side.
Bob
"B a r r y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> How do the 12" Besseys help you?
One of the first things I discovered about the K-bodies, outside of clamping
cabinets was that they worked in holding situations where it was a battle
to get my F-clamps to "sit still". I've got some Bessey F-clamps so they
are good quality. I constantly find myself using a 24" k-body for utility
situations, where 1 clamp will get the job done and it takes 2-3 F clamps
and a lot of aggravation. In most of these situations I could have gotten
by with a 6-8" clamp and its a pain to have that 24" handle sticking out.
Buying the 12" is a luxury I would not allow at full price. I think a lot of
people would use them if it weren't for the psychological block of paying
nearly $30 for "just" a 12" clamp.
Bob
"Gary" <do not [email protected]> wrote in message
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> Price and shipping are about the same as LV, plus they offer more kit
> options, and individual clamp pricing .
>
> However they all seem to be back ordered, and site says "Sale prices good
> through October 31, 2005, or while supplies last." Earliest shipping date
> is October 30. Since they can not ship immediately, I'm inclined to
believe
> "supplies" is gone. So you might get them but then you might not. It
would
> be a shame to miss such a good sale. I got mine from LV delivered in 4
> days.
Gary, Lee Valley web page only offers sale prices on pre-packaged kits.
That's why I passed them by. Their price on individual 12" clamps is
$27.59. Hartville is $19.95.
Hartville has already accepted my order at the sale price. I double-checked
with them - its only a matter of delayed delivery - not a coin toss.
Bob
"BillyBob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've been somewhat interested in the Bessey sale, but not interested
> enough
> to buy one of the various packages. I don't like to buy sizes that I
> really
> don't want just to get a good price. I found that Hartville Tool is
> selling
> the clamps one at a time at the sale price. This was perfect. I wanted
> four
> 12" clamps. They are backordered right now, but expect new shipment in
> 2-3
> weeks. I am willing to wait.
>
> Bob
>
>
Price and shipping are about the same as LV, plus they offer more kit
options, and individual clamp pricing .
However they all seem to be back ordered, and site says "Sale prices good
through October 31, 2005, or while supplies last." Earliest shipping date
is October 30. Since they can not ship immediately, I'm inclined to believe
"supplies" is gone. So you might get them but then you might not. It would
be a shame to miss such a good sale. I got mine from LV delivered in 4
days.
Gary
"BillyBob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Gary" <do not [email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> Price and shipping are about the same as LV, plus they offer more kit
>> options, and individual clamp pricing .
>>
>> However they all seem to be back ordered, and site says "Sale prices good
>> through October 31, 2005, or while supplies last." Earliest shipping
>> date
>> is October 30. Since they can not ship immediately, I'm inclined to
> believe
>> "supplies" is gone. So you might get them but then you might not. It
> would
>> be a shame to miss such a good sale. I got mine from LV delivered in 4
>> days.
>
> Gary, Lee Valley web page only offers sale prices on pre-packaged kits.
> That's why I passed them by. Their price on individual 12" clamps is
> $27.59. Hartville is $19.95.
>
Yes that is what I meant when I said "...plus they offer more kit options
(24X40's, w/or w/o blocks), and individual clamp pricing (12's, 24's, 40's,
50's, etc.)."
> Hartville has already accepted my order at the sale price. I
> double-checked
> with them - its only a matter of delayed delivery - not a coin toss.
>
Good for you!! I agree, being able to pick out the specific clamps you want
is better. I'm just leery when they say "while supplies lasts" and deliver
October 30. What's up with that? Do they have their "supplies" in a
warehouse and are waiting until October 30 to ship the all out on that date?
Or is their advertised prices just a come on, and they have very limited
"supplies". Call me cynical.
Gary
"Gary" <do not [email protected]> writes:
> However they all seem to be back ordered, and site says "Sale prices good
> through October 31, 2005, or while supplies last." Earliest shipping date
> is October 30. Since they can not ship immediately, I'm inclined to believe
> "supplies" is gone. So you might get them but then you might not.
I talked to the local Woodcraft store. They sold hundreds in days.
But they are working with Bessey to honor all October sales.
I heard delivery is scheduled for December.
You might not get them until 2006, however...
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loutent <[email protected]> writes:
> I was thinking that only LV & WCraft had some sort of deal.
> I have ordered (router bits) from Hartville recently and have
> been very satisfied with their service.
>
Also check out Amazon (Grizzly).
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000DD2SK/qid=1129290041/sr=8-15/ref=pd_bbs_15/102-6552240-7140925?v=glance&s=hi&n=507846
2x24" + 2x40" + 4 KP blocks = 119.95
At Woodcraft, this is $125.15+shipping
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Bruce Barnett <[email protected]> writes:
> Also check out Amazon (Grizzly).
>
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000DD2SK/qid=1129290041/sr=8-15/ref=pd_bbs_15/102-6552240-7140925?v=glance&s=hi&n=507846
>
> 2x24" + 2x40" + 4 KP blocks = 119.95
Correction. I found a better deal on Amazon through Highland Hardware.
Search for "Bessey KBK2440 Cabinet Door Clamp Kit"
Featureed Item. Price too low to show.
Kit includes two 24-inch clamps, two 40-inch clamps, and one KP block set
List Price $239.75
Total Cost = $99.94 w/Free Shipping
So if you want to be a savvy shopper, get it from Amazon/Grizzly, and
then get them to match the Amazon/Highland Hardware price plus 10%
discount.
However, The Grizzy item is "Bessey H2389 K-Body / Block Set"
while the Highland Hardware is "Bessey KBK2440 Cabinet Door Clamp Kit"
As far as I can tell, these are the same item.
both had 2x24" and 2x40" plus the KP Blocks set.
Have fun, and let us know if it works.
I bought the KBK2440 set with a $50 certificate, for $49.94.
Let's see if I get it in 7 days. Last few items I got from Amazon
have been delayed months. :-(
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"Gary" <do not [email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > Hartville has already accepted my order at the sale price. I
> > double-checked
> > with them - its only a matter of delayed delivery - not a coin toss.
> >
> Good for you!! I agree, being able to pick out the specific clamps you
want
> is better. I'm just leery when they say "while supplies lasts" and
deliver
> October 30. What's up with that?
I really don't know. What is up is their reputation. I got an email that
said "Due to the high demand created by the 25th Bessey Anniversary Sale,
the clamps are currently on backorder. Our apologies for the delay. We do
expect our next shipment withing the next 2-3 weeks and will ship them out
for you asap after they arrive."
Nobody else that I could find would sell individual clamps so I have nothing
to lose. If they do not honor this order, they will permanently go on my "do
not buy" list and I will, of course, dutifully whine and moan about it in
here. Like many people here, when we order over the internet, we start with
Lee Valley. I'm sure that Robin Lee would clearly state that sometimes their
business conditions are such that they cannot compete or won't.
Bob
BillyBob wrote:
> "B a r r y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> How do the 12" Besseys help you?
>
> One of the first things I discovered about the K-bodies, outside of clamping
> cabinets was that they worked in holding situations where it was a battle
> to get my F-clamps to "sit still". I've got some Bessey F-clamps so they
> are good quality.
I have a mountain of "F" clamps. What do you mean by "sit still"? I
can see where the smaller K's would stand up on the bench, but usually
if I'm using a short clamp, it's not a big deal. This could simply be
differences in the projects we build.
> I constantly find myself using a 24" k-body for utility
> situations, where 1 clamp will get the job done and it takes 2-3 F clamps
> and a lot of aggravation.
Me too. My 24 & 31 inch "K"'s are heavily used. I like the way they
stand up, stay square, don't mark the work, and don't flex.
> Buying the 12" is a luxury I would not allow at full price. I think a lot of
> people would use them if it weren't for the psychological block of paying
> nearly $30 for "just" a 12" clamp.
Exactly. I get 12" Bessey "F" clamps locally for $8. I've even looked
at the lighter-duty, gray Bessey's (Uniclamps?), but I can't seem to
pull out the $16 to buy them.
I so want to buy some 12" K's... <G>
Thanks for the insight!
Barry