Removing yacht varnish and paint over it

"Lowell Holmes" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> My experience is paint doesn't attach well to varnish. It will sluff off. If
> you sand it, degloss with liquid sander, and prime with oil based Kilz
> (while the surface is still soft), you might have a surface paint will stick
> to.
> Good luck :-)

Thanks for the info..I'll have a go at it then. Or else wait until
time does its bit and you start getting used to it! :D

"Lowell Holmes" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Well. I can tell you that I have been were Adrian is and I sympathize with
> him (with some amusement I admit). I've been there, done that, and started
> over doing it right.
>
> I will say that I might consider replacing the front door it the effort is
> too great to strip and re-varnish. Varnish on an exterior door requires
> annual maintenance, and just like on a boat, if you sand it in the spring
> and apply a coat of varnish that contains a UV filter, it probably will
> always look nice. If you don't do it, well, . . . . .
>
>
>

Thanks for the sympathy!...since i'm not getting any from the wife!
(or from Mike for that matter...)
I think i'm done with varnishing...the slightest defect will show
right through, and I certainly don't fancy having to do this every
year. So paint it is, eggshell or gloss, white or blue. The door
itself is in very good shape, and replacing it will cost far too much.
And iroko, I'm told here, is a good, strong wood, unlike the pine
doors most people have here. So I guess I'll have a go at it with
either paint stripper or a heat gun, then sand it lightly all over to
get a smooth-ish surface before painting it over. Won't use the sander
again...can't afford to lose any more wood! Errmm, stupid question
maybe, but it needs to be primed before painting, right?
Thing is I have to work with the door in place because we the door is
right on the road (no front path/garden), so I cannot afford to remain
without a door.

"Mike G" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > Thanks for the sympathy!...since i'm not getting any from the wife!
> > (or from Mike for that matter...)
>
> Adrian, if it is any comfort, my wife gets on my case if I don't put a hand
> rubbed finish on the outside back of a wall cabinet.
>
>
> Good luck

ooooh...you poor man!

My experience is paint doesn't attach well to varnish. It will sluff off. If
you sand it, degloss with liquid sander, and prime with oil based Kilz
(while the surface is still soft), you might have a surface paint will stick
to.
Good luck :-)
.
"adrian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi!
> I have just finished a quick sanding and revarnishing (polyurethane
> yacht varnish) my iroko front door..and the result is HORRIBLE! My
> fault methinks, for not sanding the door well and leaving unsanded
> bits which looked fine..now the door is all blotchy, with various
> shades of brown! I know I know...mea culpa! Anyway, since wife is now
> making life hell about it, I need some help! Preposterous question
> maybe, but do you think I could just lighly sand the new finish (to
> prime it) and paint it over (not varnish) to cover up the different
> shades? Or do I still need to sand/strip/heatgun it all over again?
> Any help would be appreciated because after trawling through the NG, I
> still didn't find an answer.
> Cheers!
> Adrian

You have such a delicate way of stating it Mike. :-)


"Mike G" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> So, if I have this right, you did a half assed job, your wife is on your
> case, and you want to know if you can cover it up with another half assed
> job.
>
> Sure, have at it. It'll look like it just came from the factory.
>
> --
> Mike G.
> [email protected]
> Heirloom Woods
> www.heirloom-woods.net
> "adrian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hi!
> > I have just finished a quick sanding and revarnishing (polyurethane
> > yacht varnish) my iroko front door..and the result is HORRIBLE! My
> > fault methinks, for not sanding the door well and leaving unsanded
> > bits which looked fine..now the door is all blotchy, with various
> > shades of brown! I know I know...mea culpa! Anyway, since wife is now
> > making life hell about it, I need some help! Preposterous question
> > maybe, but do you think I could just lighly sand the new finish (to
> > prime it) and paint it over (not varnish) to cover up the different
> > shades? Or do I still need to sand/strip/heatgun it all over again?
> > Any help would be appreciated because after trawling through the NG, I
> > still didn't find an answer.
> > Cheers!
> > Adrian
>
>

Well. I can tell you that I have been were Adrian is and I sympathize with
him (with some amusement I admit). I've been there, done that, and started
over doing it right.

I will say that I might consider replacing the front door it the effort is
too great to strip and re-varnish. Varnish on an exterior door requires
annual maintenance, and just like on a boat, if you sand it in the spring
and apply a coat of varnish that contains a UV filter, it probably will
always look nice. If you don't do it, well, . . . . .



"Mike G" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> It wasn't too subtle was it?
>
> --
> Mike G.
> [email protected]
> Heirloom Woods
> www.heirloom-woods.net
> "Lowell Holmes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > You have such a delicate way of stating it Mike. :-)
> >
> >
> > "Mike G" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > So, if I have this right, you did a half assed job, your wife is on
your
> > > case, and you want to know if you can cover it up with another half
> assed
> > > job.
> > >
> > > Sure, have at it. It'll look like it just came from the factory.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mike G.
> > > [email protected]
> > > Heirloom Woods
> > > www.heirloom-woods.net
> > > "adrian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > Hi!
> > > > I have just finished a quick sanding and revarnishing (polyurethane
> > > > yacht varnish) my iroko front door..and the result is HORRIBLE! My
> > > > fault methinks, for not sanding the door well and leaving unsanded
> > > > bits which looked fine..now the door is all blotchy, with various
> > > > shades of brown! I know I know...mea culpa! Anyway, since wife is
now
> > > > making life hell about it, I need some help! Preposterous question
> > > > maybe, but do you think I could just lighly sand the new finish (to
> > > > prime it) and paint it over (not varnish) to cover up the different
> > > > shades? Or do I still need to sand/strip/heatgun it all over again?
> > > > Any help would be appreciated because after trawling through the NG,
I
> > > > still didn't find an answer.
> > > > Cheers!
> > > > Adrian
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

> Thanks for the sympathy!...since i'm not getting any from the wife!
> (or from Mike for that matter...)

Adrian, if it is any comfort, my wife gets on my case if I don't put a hand
rubbed finish on the outside back of a wall cabinet.


Good luck
--
Mike G.
[email protected]
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net

So, if I have this right, you did a half assed job, your wife is on your
case, and you want to know if you can cover it up with another half assed
job.

Sure, have at it. It'll look like it just came from the factory.

--
Mike G.
[email protected]
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"adrian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi!
> I have just finished a quick sanding and revarnishing (polyurethane
> yacht varnish) my iroko front door..and the result is HORRIBLE! My
> fault methinks, for not sanding the door well and leaving unsanded
> bits which looked fine..now the door is all blotchy, with various
> shades of brown! I know I know...mea culpa! Anyway, since wife is now
> making life hell about it, I need some help! Preposterous question
> maybe, but do you think I could just lighly sand the new finish (to
> prime it) and paint it over (not varnish) to cover up the different
> shades? Or do I still need to sand/strip/heatgun it all over again?
> Any help would be appreciated because after trawling through the NG, I
> still didn't find an answer.
> Cheers!
> Adrian

It wasn't too subtle was it?

--
Mike G.
[email protected]
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Lowell Holmes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> You have such a delicate way of stating it Mike. :-)
>
>
> "Mike G" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > So, if I have this right, you did a half assed job, your wife is on your
> > case, and you want to know if you can cover it up with another half
assed
> > job.
> >
> > Sure, have at it. It'll look like it just came from the factory.
> >
> > --
> > Mike G.
> > [email protected]
> > Heirloom Woods
> > www.heirloom-woods.net
> > "adrian" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Hi!
> > > I have just finished a quick sanding and revarnishing (polyurethane
> > > yacht varnish) my iroko front door..and the result is HORRIBLE! My
> > > fault methinks, for not sanding the door well and leaving unsanded
> > > bits which looked fine..now the door is all blotchy, with various
> > > shades of brown! I know I know...mea culpa! Anyway, since wife is now
> > > making life hell about it, I need some help! Preposterous question
> > > maybe, but do you think I could just lighly sand the new finish (to
> > > prime it) and paint it over (not varnish) to cover up the different
> > > shades? Or do I still need to sand/strip/heatgun it all over again?
> > > Any help would be appreciated because after trawling through the NG, I
> > > still didn't find an answer.
> > > Cheers!
> > > Adrian
> >
> >
>
>