Hmmmm???????
It's "au contraire mon frere", a french expression.
Gill
"JG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Unisaw A100 wrote:
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> > JG wrote:
> >
> >>Remeber Shakers were about simplicty of form, and efficincy of design
and
> >>production. They aren't the Amish or Mennonites.
>
> > Or any of the Party Animal religions.
>
> au contraire mon frair, the Shakers really knew how to party-down!
> How do you think they got their name. Perhaps because of their dancing
> and crying out in strange tongues, they became known as the Shaking
> Quakers (Shakers) Hmmmm???????
>
>
> --
> John G. in Memphis, TN Have a nice......... night.
> http://www.shavings.net/images/Memphis/reflect_john.jpg
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"JG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > saw some similar at Home Depot that had a slight bevel in the rail &
stile.
>
> Shakers did not, and would not have, embellished their doors with such
> useless ornamentation.
A slight bevel is embellishment?
All that I recall about Shaker edge treatments includes square, dulled,
slightly rounded, round nose, thumbnail beveled and rounded. I don't know
what a Shaker bit would be. Many of these can be achieved with a handplane.
a round over bit and a thumbnail bit would cover many of them.
I'm sure that if you Googled for router bits, you might find many profiles
that suit your fancy.
Page 78 in the book, Making Authentic Shaker Furniture, shows these edge
profiles. :-)
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> "JG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > > saw some similar at Home Depot that had a slight bevel in the rail &
> stile.
> >
> > Shakers did not, and would not have, embellished their doors with such
> > useless ornamentation.
>
> A slight bevel is embellishment?
>
>
On Mon, 17 May 2004 20:02:29 -0700, "1ko" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I am going to make some shaker style cabinet doors for a kitchen.The owner
>saw some similar at Home Depot that had a slight bevel in the rail & stile.
>Could anyone steer me in the right direction on a router bit that makes
>this? Thank you.
>
Shaker style furniture typically does not use complicated profiles.
I've made hundreds of replicas without buying any special bits. I have
dozens of Shaker books. If you have a picture, I'd like to see it.
Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On Mon, 17 May 2004 20:02:29 -0700, "1ko" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I am going to make some shaker style cabinet doors for a kitchen.The owner
> >saw some similar at Home Depot that had a slight bevel in the rail & stile.
> >Could anyone steer me in the right direction on a router bit that makes
> >this? Thank you.
> >
>
> Shaker style furniture typically does not use complicated profiles.
> I've made hundreds of replicas without buying any special bits. I have
> dozens of Shaker books. If you have a picture, I'd like to see it.
C'mon guys, (not you in particular, Phisherman, but the group
responding as a whole)the OP's example was at Home Depot, not exactly
a hotbed of traditionalism and strict adherence to the Shaker
Philosophy. If he likes the basic Shaker look with a little variation
that's OK. As to a specific router bit, I would guess one with a
slight bevel ;)
If by a slight bevel you mean a 45 degree bevel on the very edge, then
a 45 bit. If it is a very small angle over the entire edge then it may
be something better done with a hand plane, a jointer or a tablesaw.
Dave Hall
Unisaw A100 wrote:
> JG wrote:
>
>>Remeber Shakers were about simplicty of form, and efficincy of design and
>>production. They aren't the Amish or Mennonites.
> Or any of the Party Animal religions.
au contraire mon frair, the Shakers really knew how to party-down!
How do you think they got their name. Perhaps because of their dancing
and crying out in strange tongues, they became known as the Shaking
Quakers (Shakers) Hmmmm???????
--
John G. in Memphis, TN Have a nice......... night.
http://www.shavings.net/images/Memphis/reflect_john.jpg
>
> -Steve
>
> "1ko" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> I am going to make some shaker style cabinet doors for a kitchen.The
>> owner saw some similar at Home Depot that had a slight bevel in the
>> rail &
> stile.
>> Could anyone steer me in the right direction on a router bit that
>> makes this? Thank you.
>>
>>
>
>
>
I'd had the need for the same thing, to copy an existing profile. I found
this 15 degree stile/rail cutter to be just the ticket. Try this link.
http://www.pricecutter.com/html/catalog/productGroup.asp?id=399
I started getting these fliers after WWWarehouse went out.
"mttt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "JG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > > saw some similar at Home Depot that had a slight bevel in the rail &
> stile.
> >
> > Shakers did not, and would not have, embellished their doors with such
> > useless ornamentation.
>
> A slight bevel is embellishment?
Yes, it is. What does it do to improve the strenght or integrity of the
finished product, or aid in the efficiency of production?
Remeber Shakers were about simplicty of form, and efficincy of design and
production. They aren't the Amish or Mennonites.
I did this type of profile in my kitchen. Since I wanted pinned M&T, a cope
and stick cutter was not the route I chose.
I did it with a dovetail bit to cut the accute interior angle on the rails.
The rest was done on the table saw. Setting the dovetail cut to match the
stile was a *very very* fussy operation (i.e. thousanths matter here).
BTW I chose this style of profile because it is used throughout my house on
all of the 1860-vintage interior doors.
-Steve
"1ko" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I am going to make some shaker style cabinet doors for a kitchen.The owner
> saw some similar at Home Depot that had a slight bevel in the rail &
stile.
> Could anyone steer me in the right direction on a router bit that makes
> this? Thank you.
>
>
> > A slight bevel is embellishment?
>
> Yes, it is. What does it do to improve the strenght or integrity of the
> finished product, or aid in the efficiency of production?
No, it's not. I think this detail follows from creating the tongue on
the center panel with a rabbeting plane. (remember they didn't have
plywood) Other styles added ogees etc. to this rabbet, shakers left it
simple. Easing a sharp edge with a bevel certainly adds to the
function and durability, e.g. milk paint won't stick to a sharp edge.
Mike
1ko wrote:
> I am going to make some shaker style cabinet doors for a kitchen.The owner
> saw some similar at Home Depot that had a slight bevel in the rail & stile.
> Could anyone steer me in the right direction on a router bit that makes
> this?
Shakers did not, and would not have, embellished their doors with such
useless ornamentation.
--
--
John (Used to instruct at Canterbury Shaker Village.) G.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Mike) wrote:
> > > A slight bevel is embellishment?
> >
> > Yes, it is. What does it do to improve the strenght or integrity of the
> > finished product, or aid in the efficiency of production?
>
> No, it's not. I think this detail follows from creating the tongue on
> the center panel with a rabbeting plane. (remember they didn't have
> plywood) Other styles added ogees etc. to this rabbet, shakers left it
> simple. Easing a sharp edge with a bevel certainly adds to the
> function and durability, e.g. milk paint won't stick to a sharp edge.
>
> Mike
And a beveled edge is like likely to chip or splinter.