I'm getting ready to cover a 16 x 20 patio with a 2/12 pitch and clear
fiberglass roofing. My question is: can I use 2 x 6 - 16" o/c on a 17 ft.
span or would I need to go to 2 x 8's?
Used to have a book that gives all that info but a lot of my books
disppeared after I retired. Anyone give me a quick answer to this?
Al in SW WA
I'm not a structural engineer. However, if it was mine, I would use 2x8
24"c. The roof load is not very heavy but the big conceren would be up-lift
and other wind loads. I assume that in SW WA you should not have any snow
loads.
Dave
"Al Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I'm getting ready to cover a 16 x 20 patio with a 2/12 pitch and clear
> fiberglass roofing. My question is: can I use 2 x 6 - 16" o/c on a 17 ft.
> span or would I need to go to 2 x 8's?
>
> Used to have a book that gives all that info but a lot of my books
> disppeared after I retired. Anyone give me a quick answer to this?
>
> Al in SW WA
>
>
O-K, I forgot to mention that I'm putting 1 x 4 @ 16" o/c at right angle to
the joists (rafters) to screw the fiberglass to. Done this in the past and
never a sag problem. Snow load here in Longview, WA? Haven't seen more
then an inch or two in many years, then it only lasts for a day or two.
Just enough to get messy.
Building permit? Never got one for anything I've done. Why make it easy
for them to raise my property taxes?
Thanks for the chart, Swingman, tried to find one with Google with not much
help.
Al
"Wes Stewart" <n7ws_@_yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 18:11:14 -0700, "Al" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> |Thanks a lot guys, this is what I needed so 2x8's on 24" o/c it will be.
>
>
> Hold on a minute. If this fiberglass is anything like what I used
> years ago, 24" centers is going to allow a bunch of sag between
> sheets.
>
> Since you will never have any live load and the dead load should be
> zip too, I'd be more inclined to have a bigger population of smaller
> joists. Span tables are developed for a particular allowable
> deflection and have (almost) nothing to do with yield strength.
>
> As before, the deflection I think you need to worry about is in the
> fiberglass, not the lumber.
"Al Miller" writes:
> I'm getting ready to cover a 16 x 20 patio with a 2/12 pitch and clear
> fiberglass roofing. My question is: can I use 2 x 6 - 16" o/c on a 17 ft.
> span or would I need to go to 2 x 8's?
Without question, use 2x8's, especially on a 17 ft span.
I could dig out the books and do the calculations, but frankly, it is more
work than it is worth for the few pieces of 2x8 wood involved.
You might 2x10's on 24" centers, but don't think you would save much.
HTH
--
Lew
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HTH
"Al" wrote
> Thanks a lot guys, this is what I needed so 2x8's on 24" o/c it will be.
At
> least we don't have to worry about much snow here in SW WA like we did 40
> years ago. Weather sure has changed.
Stick this is your saddlebag for future reference:
http://www.admoyer.com/builderslibrary/lib.spancharts.htm
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Last update: 7/10/04
OK not to get too technical about this, but this all matters where you live (snow loads or wind loads ?). According to
the wood rafter span tables you would at least need 2x10's at 12" on center, and this is assuming a 20psf live load,
which I doubt you will have, unless you have snow loads. If you are getting a building permit :=O, you will quickly find
out what is needed.
Now before everyone jumps my case about over designing these roof rafters, for the dead load, we all know that in the
future, this clear fiberglass roofing *could* be replaced with a sheeting/shingle roof system and thus the size and
spacing advised in this thread so far will not be anywhere near enough to carry the dead load. Like I said in the
previous paragraph, if you are getting a building permit (structural construction), then you will quickly find out what
is needed.
JAW
Al wrote:
> Thanks a lot guys, this is what I needed so 2x8's on 24" o/c it will be. At
> least we don't have to worry about much snow here in SW WA like we did 40
> years ago. Weather sure has changed.
>
> Thanks again, Al
>
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>"Al Miller" writes:
>>
>>
>>>I'm getting ready to cover a 16 x 20 patio with a 2/12 pitch and clear
>>>fiberglass roofing. My question is: can I use 2 x 6 - 16" o/c on a 17
>>>ft.
>>>span or would I need to go to 2 x 8's?
>>
>>Without question, use 2x8's, especially on a 17 ft span.
>>
>>I could dig out the books and do the calculations, but frankly, it is more
>>work than it is worth for the few pieces of 2x8 wood involved.
>>
>>You might 2x10's on 24" centers, but don't think you would save much.
>>
>>HTH
>>
>>
>>--
>>Lew
>>
>>S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the
>>Southland)
>>Visit: <http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett> for Pictures
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>HTH
>>
>>
>
>
>
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 18:11:14 -0700, "Al" <[email protected]>
wrote:
|Thanks a lot guys, this is what I needed so 2x8's on 24" o/c it will be.
Hold on a minute. If this fiberglass is anything like what I used
years ago, 24" centers is going to allow a bunch of sag between
sheets.
Since you will never have any live load and the dead load should be
zip too, I'd be more inclined to have a bigger population of smaller
joists. Span tables are developed for a particular allowable
deflection and have (almost) nothing to do with yield strength.
As before, the deflection I think you need to worry about is in the
fiberglass, not the lumber.
Thanks a lot guys, this is what I needed so 2x8's on 24" o/c it will be. At
least we don't have to worry about much snow here in SW WA like we did 40
years ago. Weather sure has changed.
Thanks again, Al
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Al Miller" writes:
>
>> I'm getting ready to cover a 16 x 20 patio with a 2/12 pitch and clear
>> fiberglass roofing. My question is: can I use 2 x 6 - 16" o/c on a 17
>> ft.
>> span or would I need to go to 2 x 8's?
>
> Without question, use 2x8's, especially on a 17 ft span.
>
> I could dig out the books and do the calculations, but frankly, it is more
> work than it is worth for the few pieces of 2x8 wood involved.
>
> You might 2x10's on 24" centers, but don't think you would save much.
>
> HTH
>
>
> --
> Lew
>
> S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the
> Southland)
> Visit: <http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett> for Pictures
>
>
>
>
>
> HTH
>
>