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"Eric Yancey"

01/02/2004 11:23 PM

metal bits in plywood

Yesterday I was planing a 45 degree chamfer on a piece of plywood that I was
going to use for mounting a wall cabinet. I was using my 2 month old low
angle block plane when I suddenly noticed that it had stopped cutting like
it was. I look at the sole of the plane and noticed several scratches along
it, and then noticed that the blade had several dings in it. After
inspecting the wood, I noticed a piece of metal in it about the diameter of
a staple. Man was I pissed!

My plane was finely tuned to the point of producing the kinds of curls you
could read through. The dings on the blade were so bad I had to take it
back to the grinder and go through the whole sharpening process again.
Worse than that though, my new veritas plane now has gouges all along the
sole. Is it worth trying to remove these gouges? So far it doesn't seem to
be affecting the performance of the plane after I resharpened the blade.

The scrap of plywood I was using was some old 3/4" stock - so not high
quality. Has anyone else ever encountered this? I did a quick google
search and didn't immediately find anything, but I'm sure I can't be the
first person to encounter this.

Eric


This topic has 7 replies

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"SawEyes"

in reply to "Eric Yancey" on 01/02/2004 11:23 PM

02/02/2004 3:20 PM

"Eric Yancey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yesterday I was planing a 45 degree chamfer on a piece of plywood that I
was
> going to use for mounting a wall cabinet. I was using my 2 month old low
> angle block plane when I suddenly noticed that it had stopped cutting like
> it was. I look at the sole of the plane and noticed several scratches
along
> it, and then noticed that the blade had several dings in it. After
> inspecting the wood, I noticed a piece of metal in it about the diameter
of
> a staple. Man was I pissed!
>
> My plane was finely tuned to the point of producing the kinds of curls you
> could read through. The dings on the blade were so bad I had to take it
> back to the grinder and go through the whole sharpening process again.
> Worse than that though, my new veritas plane now has gouges all along the
> sole. Is it worth trying to remove these gouges? So far it doesn't seem
to
> be affecting the performance of the plane after I resharpened the blade.
>
> The scrap of plywood I was using was some old 3/4" stock - so not high
> quality. Has anyone else ever encountered this? I did a quick google
> search and didn't immediately find anything, but I'm sure I can't be the
> first person to encounter this.
>
> Eric

Yes I often fine staples in the ends of pine boards and once in some
plywood.
After damaging a blade a few years back, I invested in a metal detector to
protect my blades.
I ordered the Lumber Wizard which works great and is reasonable priced.
Amazon have it for $69.99 at present
which is not too bad a deal.
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"George"

in reply to "Eric Yancey" on 01/02/2004 11:23 PM

02/02/2004 6:41 AM

Personally, I'd never use a plane I cared about on plywood, and especially
never on a factory edge, which may or may not have been the case with you.

Reason I wouldn't goes back to a sheet I had a number of years back which
picked up some grit, probably from me handling and storing it. Too much
can hide in those voids and loose end grain.

"Eric Yancey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yesterday I was planing a 45 degree chamfer on a piece of plywood that I
was
> going to use for mounting a wall cabinet. I was using my 2 month old low
> angle block plane when I suddenly noticed that it had stopped cutting like
> it was. I look at the sole of the plane and noticed several scratches
along
> it, and then noticed that the blade had several dings in it. After
> inspecting the wood, I noticed a piece of metal in it about the diameter
of
> a staple. Man was I pissed!

LA

Lawrence A. Ramsey

in reply to "Eric Yancey" on 01/02/2004 11:23 PM

02/02/2004 10:54 AM

If anything, it should be slightly easier to use it since there is
less metal in direct contact with the wood. If there is a burr around
the scratch, lap it on a piece of glass with some 600 grit or higher
sandpaper glued to it.


On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 08:56:08 -0600, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:

>"Eric Yancey" wrote in message
>
>> Worse than that though, my new veritas plane now has gouges all along the
>> sole. Is it worth trying to remove these gouges? So far it doesn't seem
>to
>> be affecting the performance of the plane after I resharpened the blade.
>
>Personally, as long as the plane is doing its job, I wouldn't bother ...
>some of the old Stanley's had grooves along the sole on purpose. I've got a
>couple of flea market planes that have obvioulsy met similar fates and they
>all work per design with some pretty deep scratches.
>
>Nice plane, BTW ... its one of my few tools that I would be tempted to go
>into a burning building to rescue. :)

Po

"Pounds on Wood"

in reply to "Eric Yancey" on 01/02/2004 11:23 PM

02/02/2004 7:26 PM

Plywood can have all sorts of stuff in it, including metal and sand. They
are not particularly careful about cleanliness at these mills. Moral of the
story is, expect increased wear on any cutting tools you use on plywood and
other sheet goods.

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"Eric Yancey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yesterday I was planing a 45 degree chamfer on a piece of plywood that I
was
> going to use for mounting a wall cabinet. I was using my 2 month old low
> angle block plane when I suddenly noticed that it had stopped cutting like
> it was. I look at the sole of the plane and noticed several scratches
along
> it, and then noticed that the blade had several dings in it. After
> inspecting the wood, I noticed a piece of metal in it about the diameter
of
> a staple. Man was I pissed!
>
> My plane was finely tuned to the point of producing the kinds of curls you
> could read through. The dings on the blade were so bad I had to take it
> back to the grinder and go through the whole sharpening process again.
> Worse than that though, my new veritas plane now has gouges all along the
> sole. Is it worth trying to remove these gouges? So far it doesn't seem
to
> be affecting the performance of the plane after I resharpened the blade.
>
> The scrap of plywood I was using was some old 3/4" stock - so not high
> quality. Has anyone else ever encountered this? I did a quick google
> search and didn't immediately find anything, but I'm sure I can't be the
> first person to encounter this.
>
> Eric
>
>

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "Eric Yancey" on 01/02/2004 11:23 PM

02/02/2004 8:56 AM

"Eric Yancey" wrote in message

> Worse than that though, my new veritas plane now has gouges all along the
> sole. Is it worth trying to remove these gouges? So far it doesn't seem
to
> be affecting the performance of the plane after I resharpened the blade.

Personally, as long as the plane is doing its job, I wouldn't bother ...
some of the old Stanley's had grooves along the sole on purpose. I've got a
couple of flea market planes that have obvioulsy met similar fates and they
all work per design with some pretty deep scratches.

Nice plane, BTW ... its one of my few tools that I would be tempted to go
into a burning building to rescue. :)


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GG

"GeeDubb"

in reply to "Eric Yancey" on 01/02/2004 11:23 PM

01/02/2004 9:31 PM

Eric Yancey wrote:
> Yesterday I was planing a 45 degree chamfer on a piece of plywood
> that I was going to use for mounting a wall cabinet. I was using my
> 2 month old low angle block plane when I suddenly noticed that it had
> stopped cutting like it was. I look at the sole of the plane and
> noticed several scratches along it, and then noticed that the blade
> had several dings in it. After inspecting the wood, I noticed a
> piece of metal in it about the diameter of a staple. Man was I
> pissed!
>
> My plane was finely tuned to the point of producing the kinds of
> curls you could read through. The dings on the blade were so bad I
> had to take it back to the grinder and go through the whole
> sharpening process again. Worse than that though, my new veritas
> plane now has gouges all along the sole. Is it worth trying to
> remove these gouges? So far it doesn't seem to be affecting the
> performance of the plane after I resharpened the blade.
>
> The scrap of plywood I was using was some old 3/4" stock - so not high
> quality. Has anyone else ever encountered this? I did a quick google
> search and didn't immediately find anything, but I'm sure I can't be
> the first person to encounter this.
>
> Eric

I see this all the time in plywood/sheetgoods. The manufacturer/shipper
tend to staple all sorts of paperwork to the stack of ply. Sometime not all
the staples come out when I pull off the stuff so if somebody else pulled
the labeling off chances are there are staples broken off in the edges of
the ply.
I've run many a staple through my table saw but fortunately for me, never
run a hand plane through one.

Gary

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"Eric Yancey"

in reply to "Eric Yancey" on 01/02/2004 11:23 PM

02/02/2004 6:11 PM

Thanks to all for the replies. I'll consider this one a lesson learned. It
only cost me about 30 minutes of getting the plane blade tuned back up, and
the scratches on the sole will serve as a reminder not to do that again.


"Pounds on Wood" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Plywood can have all sorts of stuff in it, including metal and sand. They
> are not particularly careful about cleanliness at these mills. Moral of
the
> story is, expect increased wear on any cutting tools you use on plywood
and
> other sheet goods.
>
> --
> ********
> Bill Pounds
> http://www.bill.pounds.net/woodshop
>
>
> "Eric Yancey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Yesterday I was planing a 45 degree chamfer on a piece of plywood that I
> was
> > going to use for mounting a wall cabinet. I was using my 2 month old
low
> > angle block plane when I suddenly noticed that it had stopped cutting
like
> > it was. I look at the sole of the plane and noticed several scratches
> along
> > it, and then noticed that the blade had several dings in it. After
> > inspecting the wood, I noticed a piece of metal in it about the diameter
> of
> > a staple. Man was I pissed!
> >
> > My plane was finely tuned to the point of producing the kinds of curls
you
> > could read through. The dings on the blade were so bad I had to take it
> > back to the grinder and go through the whole sharpening process again.
> > Worse than that though, my new veritas plane now has gouges all along
the
> > sole. Is it worth trying to remove these gouges? So far it doesn't
seem
> to
> > be affecting the performance of the plane after I resharpened the blade.
> >
> > The scrap of plywood I was using was some old 3/4" stock - so not high
> > quality. Has anyone else ever encountered this? I did a quick google
> > search and didn't immediately find anything, but I'm sure I can't be the
> > first person to encounter this.
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
>
>


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