JB

"Jim Bailey"

26/04/2004 11:29 PM

Nail gun question

Having stayed with cabinetry and furniture building for most of my years, I
haven't had much exposure to general carpentry types of work. I am planning
a shed beside my house to get all the non-woodworking stuff out of my garage
once and for all. Luckilly my brother in law is a superintendant for a
construction company and is helping me out. I'm so used to a smaller scale
that when I pick up a 16d nail, it feels like a railroad spike in my hand.

As always I'm looking for a 'requirement' for a new tool that I just 'must
have' to do this job and I thought a nail gun that would shoot these nails
for constructing my shed might be just the ticket. Working with only brad
guns and staplers in the past, I really don't kow what I'm looking for. A
quick trip to the catalogs shows me nothing about the equivalent of a 16d
nail.

I'm guessing that the gun for these nails won't shoot much of anything else
(e.g. smaller, headed nails or finish nails). Is that a good assumption ?

What am I looking for ?

jim bailey


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sS

[email protected] (Scott Lurndal)

in reply to "Jim Bailey" on 26/04/2004 11:29 PM

26/04/2004 11:39 PM

"Jim Bailey" <[email protected]> writes:
>Having stayed with cabinetry and furniture building for most of my years, I
>haven't had much exposure to general carpentry types of work. I am planning
>a shed beside my house to get all the non-woodworking stuff out of my garage
>once and for all. Luckilly my brother in law is a superintendant for a
>construction company and is helping me out. I'm so used to a smaller scale
>that when I pick up a 16d nail, it feels like a railroad spike in my hand.
>
>As always I'm looking for a 'requirement' for a new tool that I just 'must
>have' to do this job and I thought a nail gun that would shoot these nails
>for constructing my shed might be just the ticket. Working with only brad
>guns and staplers in the past, I really don't kow what I'm looking for. A
>quick trip to the catalogs shows me nothing about the equivalent of a 16d
>nail.
>
>I'm guessing that the gun for these nails won't shoot much of anything else
>(e.g. smaller, headed nails or finish nails). Is that a good assumption ?

Yes. They'll typically shoot from 8d to 16d.

You have a choice of clip-head vs. round head. IMHO, the only advantage
to clipped head is more nails to the stick. Many building codes disallow
clipped head (especially in active seismic regions).

>
>What am I looking for ?

PC FR350 or Senco.

scott

Gm

Growler

in reply to "Jim Bailey" on 26/04/2004 11:29 PM

27/04/2004 7:34 PM

"Jim Bailey" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Having stayed with cabinetry and furniture building for most of my
> years, I haven't had much exposure to general carpentry types of work.
> I am planning a shed beside my house to get all the non-woodworking
> stuff out of my garage once and for all. Luckilly my brother in law
> is a superintendant for a construction company and is helping me out.
> I'm so used to a smaller scale that when I pick up a 16d nail, it
> feels like a railroad spike in my hand.
>
> As always I'm looking for a 'requirement' for a new tool that I just
> 'must have' to do this job and I thought a nail gun that would shoot
> these nails for constructing my shed might be just the ticket.
> Working with only brad guns and staplers in the past, I really don't
> kow what I'm looking for. A quick trip to the catalogs shows me
> nothing about the equivalent of a 16d nail.
>
> I'm guessing that the gun for these nails won't shoot much of anything
> else (e.g. smaller, headed nails or finish nails). Is that a good
> assumption ?
>
> What am I looking for ?
>
> jim bailey
>
>
You might consider a palm nailer. I use an 18 ga. and a 16 ga. for light
work ,but have found my palm nailer good for nailing from 1/2 " to 8"
nails.
Greg

TK

Thomas Kendrick

in reply to "Jim Bailey" on 26/04/2004 11:29 PM

27/04/2004 7:41 PM

The palm nailer will slowly work. However, it's awkward to hold a
board in place and nail it with a palm nailer, even with the magnetic
tip.

>"Jim Bailey" <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> Having stayed with cabinetry and furniture building for most of my
>> years, I haven't had much exposure to general carpentry types of work.
>> I am planning a shed beside my house to get all the non-woodworking
>> stuff out of my garage once and for all.
>>
>You might consider a palm nailer. I use an 18 ga. and a 16 ga. for light
>work ,but have found my palm nailer good for nailing from 1/2 " to 8"
>nails.
> Greg

dp

david

in reply to "Jim Bailey" on 26/04/2004 11:29 PM

27/04/2004 2:07 AM


you want a framing nailer...I like the Paslode Powermaster 350....will
shoot 8s thru 16s...I like using 12s (3" long, so wont stick thru 2
2-bys nailed together)

david

TK

Thomas Kendrick

in reply to "Jim Bailey" on 26/04/2004 11:29 PM

26/04/2004 10:21 PM

For infrequent use, even a used FR350 at
http://www.ztradingpost.com/product.asp?catalog_name=SuperPawn&category_name=Nailers&product_id=1363982&
for $139 could be a bargain. All woodworking so far has been done with
finish and brad nailers. Unless you will suddenly become a framing
contractor, there's no need to invest much in this tool.

These tools are rentable as well if you don't need it later.


On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 02:07:04 GMT, david <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>you want a framing nailer...I like the Paslode Powermaster 350....will
>shoot 8s thru 16s...I like using 12s (3" long, so wont stick thru 2
>2-bys nailed together)
>
>david

TK

Thomas Kendrick

in reply to "Jim Bailey" on 26/04/2004 11:29 PM

26/04/2004 8:38 PM

FR350: Uses 22 degree 2" to 3 1/2" x .113" to .148" plastic collated
round-head framing nails. Typically most framing work can be handled
with 3" bright,smooth nails, about $25 per box of 4000. The 2" or
2-3/8" nails can be used for attaching decking to rafters and
siding/plywood to studs. I typically get the 2-3/8" in a ring shank or
screw shank format for a bit better holding.
Even the .113 nails are quite a bit larger than 15 ga. finish nails
and the head will still show.

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 23:39:20 GMT, [email protected] (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

>>I'm guessing that the gun for these nails won't shoot much of anything else
>>(e.g. smaller, headed nails or finish nails). Is that a good assumption ?
>
>Yes. They'll typically shoot from 8d to 16d.
>
>You have a choice of clip-head vs. round head. IMHO, the only advantage
>to clipped head is more nails to the stick. Many building codes disallow
>clipped head (especially in active seismic regions).
>
>>
>>What am I looking for ?
>
>PC FR350 or Senco.
>
>scott

DW

"Dennis W. Ewing Sr."

in reply to "Jim Bailey" on 26/04/2004 11:29 PM

27/04/2004 2:22 AM

I second the Porter Cable. I have one that I love. I actually have 3 PC
nailers; a brad nailer, finish nailer and the framing nailer. I have had
nothing but good luck with PC air tools.



--
Dennis W. Ewing Sr
210/653-1276
[email protected]

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"Scott Lurndal" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Jim Bailey" <[email protected]> writes:
> >Having stayed with cabinetry and furniture building for most of my years,
I
> >haven't had much exposure to general carpentry types of work. I am
planning
> >a shed beside my house to get all the non-woodworking stuff out of my
garage
> >once and for all. Luckilly my brother in law is a superintendant for a
> >construction company and is helping me out. I'm so used to a smaller
scale
> >that when I pick up a 16d nail, it feels like a railroad spike in my
hand.
> >
> >As always I'm looking for a 'requirement' for a new tool that I just
'must
> >have' to do this job and I thought a nail gun that would shoot these
nails
> >for constructing my shed might be just the ticket. Working with only
brad
> >guns and staplers in the past, I really don't kow what I'm looking for.
A
> >quick trip to the catalogs shows me nothing about the equivalent of a 16d
> >nail.
> >
> >I'm guessing that the gun for these nails won't shoot much of anything
else
> >(e.g. smaller, headed nails or finish nails). Is that a good assumption
?
>
> Yes. They'll typically shoot from 8d to 16d.
>
> You have a choice of clip-head vs. round head. IMHO, the only advantage
> to clipped head is more nails to the stick. Many building codes disallow
> clipped head (especially in active seismic regions).
>
> >
> >What am I looking for ?
>
> PC FR350 or Senco.
>
> scott

WJ

Wm Jones

in reply to "Jim Bailey" on 26/04/2004 11:29 PM

27/04/2004 12:54 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
"Jim Bailey" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Having stayed with cabinetry and furniture building for most of my years, I
> haven't had much exposure to general carpentry types of work. I am planning
> a shed beside my house to get all the non-woodworking stuff out of my garage
> once and for all. Luckilly my brother in law is a superintendant for a
> construction company and is helping me out. I'm so used to a smaller scale
> that when I pick up a 16d nail, it feels like a railroad spike in my hand.
>
> As always I'm looking for a 'requirement' for a new tool that I just 'must
> have' to do this job and I thought a nail gun that would shoot these nails
> for constructing my shed might be just the ticket. Working with only brad
> guns and staplers in the past, I really don't kow what I'm looking for. A
> quick trip to the catalogs shows me nothing about the equivalent of a 16d
> nail.
>
> I'm guessing that the gun for these nails won't shoot much of anything else
> (e.g. smaller, headed nails or finish nails). Is that a good assumption ?
>
> What am I looking for ?
>
> jim bailey
>
>

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