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Lionel

23/10/2003 5:06 PM

[OT] [Trolls] Latest troll details - please update your filters.

Latest news:

Google has been blocking these idiots, but these children are so
desperate for attention that they seem to be spending every waking hour
doing all sorts of tricks to get around the blocks.

As always, please resist the temptation to reply to or flame the trolls,
as that is exactly what they want you to do. If you really can't resist
the temptation, *at least* trim out all the newsgroups but yours from
your reply. That way, you will not be contributing to flooding other
newsgroups with off-topic garbage.

There is an ongoing discussion with Google which hopefully will result
in changes to Googles system that will pretty much eliminate the methods
that the trolls are using, permanently. If adopted, the changes will
prevent troll floods of this scale forever from Google. I'll inform you
of any progress on this front.

In the meantime, filtering out posts with *any* of the following headers
will *completely* nuke the trolls from your view:

------------------
NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.29.60
NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.216.62
NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.216.49
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.184.145
Organization: [email protected]
------------------

For Agent users: [CTRL][G] with the following filter:
NNTP-Posting-Host: {206\.216} or {69\.29} or {205\.184}
Then again with:
Organization: [email protected]

If it's not possible for you to use the above filters, you may be able
to use one of the following, less effective, methods:

(1) Filter out crossposts completely (very newsreader dependent), or
(2) Filter out all posts from Google completely, until Google implement
a permanent solution. This is rough on the legitimate Google users who
contribute to these newsgroups, but if it's your only option, it'll
certainly nuke the trolls:
"Organization: http://groups.google.com"

Please feel free to ask for help with any of this. Between the various
groups in this crosspost, there are expert users of pretty much every
kind of newsreader, so somebody will almost certainly be able to give
you tips on how you can configure your newsreader to filter out this
garbage.

Cheers,

Lionel.

--
W
. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------


This topic has 9 replies

CT

"Chris Taylor Jr"

in reply to Lionel on 23/10/2003 5:06 PM

23/10/2003 11:32 PM

or just ignore them. it really is not that hard to simply ignore them.

I never filter since I would rather sift through 1000 troll posts than miss
one post that I really want to read and just do not know it yet.

Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/

> If it's not possible for you to use the above filters, you may be able
> to use one of the following, less effective, methods:
>
> (1) Filter out crossposts completely (very newsreader dependent), or
> (2) Filter out all posts from Google completely, until Google implement
> a permanent solution. This is rough on the legitimate Google users who
> contribute to these newsgroups, but if it's your only option, it'll
> certainly nuke the trolls:
> "Organization: http://groups.google.com"

Ln

Lionel

in reply to Lionel on 23/10/2003 5:06 PM

24/10/2003 1:59 PM

Word has it that on Thu, 23 Oct 2003 23:32:03 -0400, in this august
forum, "Chris Taylor Jr" <[email protected]> said:

>or just ignore them. it really is not that hard to simply ignore them.

It doesn't bother me all that much either, but many people find it very
unpleasant to have to wade through hundreds of off-topic or
obscenity-laden posts, just to get to the ones that are on-topic.
I post these filtering tips for the benefit of those people.

>I never filter since I would rather sift through 1000 troll posts than miss
>one post that I really want to read and just do not know it yet.

I'm afraid that you're an exception, in that regard.

--
W
. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------

g

in reply to Lionel on 23/10/2003 5:06 PM

24/10/2003 12:20 AM

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Lionel <[email protected]> wrote:
>My apologies, folks. I missed one of the troll addresses:
>
>NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.90.60

a little knowledge (yours) is a dangerous thing

Steve has access to a rasserver account; but he can also go through open
web proxies, like the one in the block cited above (and also trotted out by
himself in reply to you). Then people like you are deceived into thinking
it can't be Steve, posting from Australia.

And you miised out on the "welcome to my killfile.." post where both Steve
and "Mr. BowTie" are the exact same IP.

Get wise. You still think it's a bunch of children?

g

in reply to Lionel on 23/10/2003 5:06 PM

24/10/2003 12:20 AM

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Lionel <[email protected]> wrote:
>Latest news:
>
>Google has been blocking these idiots, but these children

what makes you think there is anyone more than Steve Young?


>are so
>desperate for attention that they seem to be spending every waking hour
>doing all sorts of tricks to get around the blocks.

TP

"The Puppy Wizard"

in reply to Lionel on 23/10/2003 5:06 PM

23/10/2003 3:51 PM

And a COWARD. But you KNEW THAT.

"Lionel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Latest news:
>
> Google has been blocking these idiots, but these children are so
> desperate for attention that they seem to be spending every
waking hour
> doing all sorts of tricks to get around the blocks.
>
> As always, please resist the temptation to reply to or flame the
trolls,
> as that is exactly what they want you to do. If you really can't
resist
> the temptation, *at least* trim out all the newsgroups but yours
from
> your reply. That way, you will not be contributing to flooding
other
> newsgroups with off-topic garbage.
>
> There is an ongoing discussion with Google which hopefully will
result
> in changes to Googles system that will pretty much eliminate the
methods
> that the trolls are using, permanently. If adopted, the changes
will
> prevent troll floods of this scale forever from Google. I'll
inform you
> of any progress on this front.
>
> In the meantime, filtering out posts with *any* of the following
headers
> will *completely* nuke the trolls from your view:
>
> ------------------
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.29.60
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.216.62
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.216.49
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.184.145
> Organization: [email protected]
> ------------------
>
> For Agent users: [CTRL][G] with the following filter:
> NNTP-Posting-Host: {206\.216} or {69\.29} or {205\.184}
> Then again with:
> Organization: [email protected]
>
> If it's not possible for you to use the above filters, you may
be able
> to use one of the following, less effective, methods:
>
> (1) Filter out crossposts completely (very newsreader
dependent), or
> (2) Filter out all posts from Google completely, until Google
implement
> a permanent solution. This is rough on the legitimate Google
users who
> contribute to these newsgroups, but if it's your only option,
it'll
> certainly nuke the trolls:
> "Organization: http://groups.google.com"
>
> Please feel free to ask for help with any of this. Between the
various
> groups in this crosspost, there are expert users of pretty much
every
> kind of newsreader, so somebody will almost certainly be able to
give
> you tips on how you can configure your newsreader to filter out
this
> garbage.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Lionel.
>
> --
> W
> . | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
> \|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita
delenda est
> ---^----^-------------------------------------------------------
--------

Sm

"Steve"

in reply to Lionel on 23/10/2003 5:06 PM

25/10/2003 12:22 AM


"Chris Taylor Jr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> or just ignore them. it really is not that hard to simply ignore them.
>
> I never filter since I would rather sift through 1000 troll posts than
miss
> one post that I really want to read and just do not know it yet.
>
> Chris Taylor
> http://www.nerys.com/
>
> > If it's not possible for you to use the above filters, you may be able
> > to use one of the following, less effective, methods:
> >
> > (1) Filter out crossposts completely (very newsreader dependent), or
> > (2) Filter out all posts from Google completely, until Google implement
> > a permanent solution. This is rough on the legitimate Google users who
> > contribute to these newsgroups, but if it's your only option, it'll
> > certainly nuke the trolls:
> > "Organization: http://groups.google.com"
>
>

SM

"Scott McAuley"

in reply to Lionel on 23/10/2003 5:06 PM

23/10/2003 11:29 PM

Thanks for the update Lionel, and congratulations! It seems you have got
under the skin of the puppyboy. With Nfilter the puppyboy has ceased to
exist and has become irrelevant. I only see him if I use my alternate
server.
Scott.
"Lionel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Latest news:
>
> Google has been blocking these idiots, but these children are so
> desperate for attention that they seem to be spending every waking hour
> doing all sorts of tricks to get around the blocks.
>
> As always, please resist the temptation to reply to or flame the trolls,
> as that is exactly what they want you to do. If you really can't resist
> the temptation, *at least* trim out all the newsgroups but yours from
> your reply. That way, you will not be contributing to flooding other
> newsgroups with off-topic garbage.
>
> There is an ongoing discussion with Google which hopefully will result
> in changes to Googles system that will pretty much eliminate the methods
> that the trolls are using, permanently. If adopted, the changes will
> prevent troll floods of this scale forever from Google. I'll inform you
> of any progress on this front.
>
> In the meantime, filtering out posts with *any* of the following headers
> will *completely* nuke the trolls from your view:
>
> ------------------
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.29.60
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.216.62
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.216.49
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.184.145
> Organization: [email protected]
> ------------------
>
> For Agent users: [CTRL][G] with the following filter:
> NNTP-Posting-Host: {206\.216} or {69\.29} or {205\.184}
> Then again with:
> Organization: [email protected]
>
> If it's not possible for you to use the above filters, you may be able
> to use one of the following, less effective, methods:
>
> (1) Filter out crossposts completely (very newsreader dependent), or
> (2) Filter out all posts from Google completely, until Google implement
> a permanent solution. This is rough on the legitimate Google users who
> contribute to these newsgroups, but if it's your only option, it'll
> certainly nuke the trolls:
> "Organization: http://groups.google.com"
>
> Please feel free to ask for help with any of this. Between the various
> groups in this crosspost, there are expert users of pretty much every
> kind of newsreader, so somebody will almost certainly be able to give
> you tips on how you can configure your newsreader to filter out this
> garbage.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Lionel.
>
> --
> W
> . | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
> \|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
> ---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------

Ln

Lionel

in reply to Lionel on 23/10/2003 5:06 PM

23/10/2003 8:27 PM

My apologies, folks. I missed one of the troll addresses:

NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.90.60

--
W
. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------

TP

"The Puppy Wizard"

in reply to Lionel on 23/10/2003 5:06 PM

23/10/2003 3:50 PM

You're a goddamned NAZI.

"Lionel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Latest news:
>
> Google has been blocking these idiots, but these children are so
> desperate for attention that they seem to be spending every
waking hour
> doing all sorts of tricks to get around the blocks.
>
> As always, please resist the temptation to reply to or flame the
trolls,
> as that is exactly what they want you to do. If you really can't
resist
> the temptation, *at least* trim out all the newsgroups but yours
from
> your reply. That way, you will not be contributing to flooding
other
> newsgroups with off-topic garbage.
>
> There is an ongoing discussion with Google which hopefully will
result
> in changes to Googles system that will pretty much eliminate the
methods
> that the trolls are using, permanently. If adopted, the changes
will
> prevent troll floods of this scale forever from Google. I'll
inform you
> of any progress on this front.
>
> In the meantime, filtering out posts with *any* of the following
headers
> will *completely* nuke the trolls from your view:
>
> ------------------
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.29.60
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.216.62
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.216.49
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.184.145
> Organization: [email protected]
> ------------------
>
> For Agent users: [CTRL][G] with the following filter:
> NNTP-Posting-Host: {206\.216} or {69\.29} or {205\.184}
> Then again with:
> Organization: [email protected]
>
> If it's not possible for you to use the above filters, you may
be able
> to use one of the following, less effective, methods:
>
> (1) Filter out crossposts completely (very newsreader
dependent), or
> (2) Filter out all posts from Google completely, until Google
implement
> a permanent solution. This is rough on the legitimate Google
users who
> contribute to these newsgroups, but if it's your only option,
it'll
> certainly nuke the trolls:
> "Organization: http://groups.google.com"
>
> Please feel free to ask for help with any of this. Between the
various
> groups in this crosspost, there are expert users of pretty much
every
> kind of newsreader, so somebody will almost certainly be able to
give
> you tips on how you can configure your newsreader to filter out
this
> garbage.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Lionel.
>
> --
> W
> . | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
> \|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita
delenda est
> ---^----^-------------------------------------------------------
--------


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