http://www.candydirect.com/mints/Sen-Sen.html
I haven't seen this stuff sincie I was a kid. I figured they'd
stopped making it. It is absolutely aazing some of the stuff you can
find on the web. May buy some of this just for the Hell of it.
Now I'm wondering if I can find any of the hard licorice stucks I
used to buy when I was a kid - about 6 inches long, as big around as
your finger, very hard, strong flavor, sold in an orange cardboard box,
for about a quarter. I think I'd definitely get some of those.
JOAT
When in doubt, go to sleep.
- Mully Small
On Mar 1, 6:35 pm, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
> http://www.candydirect.com/mints/Sen-Sen.html
>
> I haven't seen this stuff sincie I was a kid. I figured they'd
> stopped making it.
I heard once (likely an urban legend) that it was taken off the market
because it was the only way to mess up the reading of a breathalizer.
A little sliver of that stuff sure was powerful.
I had completely forgotten about Sen-Sen.
As kids, we used to chew on twigs which were imported from some far-
away land. It was called Zoethout. (sweet wood) A licorice-y kinda
taste.
After the initial tastyness, you would be left with a ropey stringy
mush which had no flavour left and looked like a paint-brush...then
snip it off and start over..till it was all gone.
----------------------
DAGS... stuff is called Zoethout - Glycyrrhiza glabra. ( With a name
like that, I'm not sure I'd put that in my mouth again.
Other names:
Dutch: Allerlustwortel, Kalissehout, Kalissiehout, Kalissestok,
Kalliche, Klishout, Krissie, Begijnehout, Kenthout, Bitterzoet,
Lakrits, Prikswiethout, Sep, Swietprikke, Zuutholt, Pockhout,
Zoethout(wortel)>
English: Liquorice, Sweet Liquorice, Licorice, Licorice root,
Sweetwood, Calamus, Mulethi, Sweet Wort, Drop, Black Sugar, Spanish
Juice
German: S=FCssholz, Lallholz, Lakritzen, Lakriz, Lakritzenholz.
French: R=E9glisse, Lacrisse,Bois doux, Racine douce, Herbe aux
tanneurs.
Legend has it that it toughens up the ol' johnson.
On Mar 2, 9:27 am, Dave Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
> Now that one I do regularly with my grandsons every summer. My mom
> even found an old time firefly cage at a church auction and bought it
> for them. Get a few dozen in the cage (they catch most of them of
> course) and you can pretty much call it a night for firefly hunting -
> 'til the next night of course.
One of my little nephews spent a lot of time fishing with my father.
One evening he and my Dad were out in the backyard catching "lightning
bugs." They came in and Mom asked David if they had caught many.
Remembering a line from fishing with Dad, he responded, "Not too many,
but the ones we did get were good size."
Dick "nostalgic" Durbin
VibraJet wrote:
> "J T" wrote...
>> I haven't seen this stuff sincie I was a kid. I figured they'd
>> stopped making it. It is absolutely aazing some of the stuff you can
>> find on the web. May buy some of this just for the Hell of it.
> [...]
>
> Is that a local treat? Never heard of Sen-Sen.
>
> Grew up in the 60's in a small town in Penna. - victorian houses, tree-lined strrets with sidewalks, etc. There was a little store in town that sold penny candy. I remember filling our little red wagon with macs from the apple tree in our yard, then my sister, me, and our dog would go door to door selling apples to our neighbors for a penny each. When we had a fistfull of pennies, we'd run to the store and buy an assortment of penny candy. My favorites were horehound drops, and little flying saucers filled with candy beads - don't remeber what those were called, haven't seen 'em in years. Can still get horehound drops though.
>
Similar memories. Grew up in Flat Rock, MI. We / I would walk up to
Wagar's market with a wagon and collect pop bottles along the way. Old
Man Wagar would give us a penny for the small ones, 2 cents for the big
ones. Pretzel sticks were 3 for a nickle ... a ball of kite twine was a
dime -- a quarter for the big spool. If I had a good day for bottles,
I'd walk out with enough extra to buy some snapper fireworks next door.
Sometimes I even had a few cents jingling on the way home.
That's what being wealthy is like ... a belly full, an armful and some
jingle left over.
(This was in the days before there was a deposit on the bottles ... old
man Wagar just wanted them picked up and was willing to pay us young
ones for our effort.)
Bill
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is worth a **** unless backed up with enough genuine information to make
him really know what he's talking about.
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DanG wrote:
> When one of the granddaughters was six, we took an overnight trip.
> Stopped and got out when I saw fireflies on the side of the road.
> She had never seen one, and I couldn't tell you the last time for
> me. Why don't we have them in the cities anymore?? DDT?
>
I live & garden in Detroit. I've got 'em. That might be because I garden
organically ... but they had to have come from somewhere before they
showed up here.
Bill
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Fri, Mar 2, 2007, 11:46pm [email protected] (Bill=A0in=A0Detroit) doth
sayeth:
I live & garden in Detroit. I've got 'em. That might be because I garden
organically ... but they had to have come from somewhere before they
showed up here.
We lived about 40 miles west of Detroit, first at the edges of a
really small town, then moved about 5 miles, and about a mile out of a
only slightly larger town. I never remember seeing ANY fireflies -
until we visited kin in Tenn, and I was absolutely amazed at them..
That country road was a real treasure trove of beer bottles. My
sister and I could pick up maybe once a week. There were always some
there, and it wasn't too unusual for use to get $1-$2, at 2 cents a
bottle, when we turned them in..
JOAT
It was too early in the morning for it to be early in the morning. That
was the only thing that he currently knew for sure.
- Clodpool
On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:35:53 -0500, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:
>http://www.candydirect.com/mints/Sen-Sen.html
>
> I haven't seen this stuff sincie I was a kid. I figured they'd
>stopped making it. It is absolutely aazing some of the stuff you can
>find on the web. May buy some of this just for the Hell of it.
>
> Now I'm wondering if I can find any of the hard licorice stucks I
>used to buy when I was a kid - about 6 inches long, as big around as
>your finger, very hard, strong flavor, sold in an orange cardboard box,
>for about a quarter. I think I'd definitely get some of those.
>
>
>
>JOAT
>When in doubt, go to sleep.
>- Mully Small
When I was a child one of my favorite walks was that which took us to
the penny candy store.
I could pretty much tell that we were going there by whether we took a
left or a right on Marshall Street.
On those evenings that we took a left it was a treat for a
sweet-toothed youngun.
This was an old timey candy emporium with apothecary jars full of
everything that would make a small person smack their lips.
I particularly liked those watermelon slices that were made of nothing
more than colored sugar and cocoanut.
Another favorite was lemon drops.
The most interesting thing in the store was also an educational item.
They had a rock candy vat and they told you how to make it yourself.
Nothing more than a heavy solution of sugar water with a string stuck
into the mix for the crystals to form on - and with a little food
coloring - it looked and tasted like much more than what it was.
Peppermint sticks that tasted like nothing I have ever had since.
Everything was a penny, or a few for a penny - but they was 1957
prices.
I'd like to take that walk again, with some smallish children - but
those stores are pretty much gone from here - sad.
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 06:07:32 -0600, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>"tom watson" wrote in message
>
>> I'd like to take that walk again, with some smallish children - but
>> those stores are pretty much gone from here - sad.
>
>Amazing what memories that being 10 years old before you ever saw a TV will
>conjure.
>
>When's the last time, on a long summer's evening, when you could stay out
>until 9, did you catch a firefly and put it in a jar?
>
> ... or have even seen a firefly?
We have a stream in the back and of a June evening the fireflies are
so thick in the trees as to put you in mind of a christmas display.
>
>The seers say the world will end on 12/21/11 ... it started in 1957.
I always liked the seers catalog. it was handy in the small house out
back.
t.
"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> http://www.candydirect.com/mints/Sen-Sen.html
>
> I haven't seen this stuff sincie I was a kid. I figured they'd
> stopped making it. It is absolutely aazing some of the stuff you can
> find on the web. May buy some of this just for the Hell of it.
>
> Now I'm wondering if I can find any of the hard licorice stucks I
> used to buy when I was a kid - about 6 inches long, as big around as
> your finger, very hard, strong flavor, sold in an orange cardboard box,
> for about a quarter. I think I'd definitely get some of those.
>
It total agreement with you JT but I fear those sticks are gone forever, at
least in this country. Last time I had anything even close was about 20
years ago at Disneyland. The FDA ( I believe ) made some stink about one of
the additives in old fashioned licorice and it went bye-bye. As a very poor
substitute I but the big jug of American Licorice sticks, remove the top and
let it sit for a few weeks.
Do you remember the NIBS licorice candy? :)
Vic
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 17:43:25 -0600, "DanG" <[email protected]> wrote:
>When one of the granddaughters was six, we took an overnight trip.
>Stopped and got out when I saw fireflies on the side of the road.
>She had never seen one, and I couldn't tell you the last time for
>me. Why don't we have them in the cities anymore?? DDT?
>
... don't think it's pesticides. My wife has relatives in a small town
in KS and we spent several summer nights where the kids were chasing
fireflies. That small town is pretty aggressive regarding spraying for
mosquitoes, can't imagine large cities using more in that regard -- may be
habitat related.
BTW, definitely wouldn't be DDT anyway that's been banned for 30+ years;
we won't even help the Africans spray with it to prevent malaria-caused
deaths.
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>>When one of the granddaughters was six, we took an overnight trip.
>>Stopped and got out when I saw fireflies on the side of the road.
>>She had never seen one, and I couldn't tell you the last time for
>>me. Why don't we have them in the cities anymore?? DDT?
>>
>
> ... don't think it's pesticides. My wife has relatives in a small town
> in KS and we spent several summer nights where the kids were chasing
> fireflies. That small town is pretty aggressive regarding spraying for
> mosquitoes, can't imagine large cities using more in that regard -- may be
> habitat related.
True enough. Habitat is likely the reason. They tend to hang around the
tall grass and wet areas. Urban places invested a lot of money in their
drainage.
Given the habits of certain members, I'm sure the feminists will blame the
good old boys....
"Bill in Detroit" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> (This was in the days before there was a deposit on the bottles ... old
> man Wagar just wanted them picked up and was willing to pay us young ones
> for our effort.)
Odd ... thick glass bottles were returned and reused when I was a pup in
Dearborn. Are you talking about the thin throwaways that prompted the
deposit laws?
Guess I'm just old.
"J T" wrote...
> I haven't seen this stuff sincie I was a kid. I figured they'd
> stopped making it. It is absolutely aazing some of the stuff you can
> find on the web. May buy some of this just for the Hell of it. =20
[...]
Is that a local treat? Never heard of Sen-Sen.
Grew up in the 60's in a small town in Penna. - victorian houses, =
tree-lined strrets with sidewalks, etc. There was a little store in =
town that sold penny candy. I remember filling our little red wagon =
with macs from the apple tree in our yard, then my sister, me, and our =
dog would go door to door selling apples to our neighbors for a penny =
each. When we had a fistfull of pennies, we'd run to the store and buy =
an assortment of penny candy. My favorites were horehound drops, and =
little flying saucers filled with candy beads - don't remeber what those =
were called, haven't seen 'em in years. Can still get horehound drops =
though.
--=20
Timothy Juvenal
www.tjwoodworking.com
Somebody wrote:
> Is that a local treat? Never heard of Sen-Sen.
If you have never heard of Sen-Sen, then you obviously came along
after Hadacol and air raid practice drills where you turned out all
the lights in town so the Nazis or the Japs couldn't find you in the
event the were able to fly over your town.
Shades of 911 knee jerk, only 60 years earlier.
History does repeat itself.
Lew
KERRY MONTGOMERY wrote:
> "Unquestionably Confused" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Vic Baron wrote:
>>
>>>"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>>http://www.candydirect.com/mints/Sen-Sen.html
>>>>
>>>> I haven't seen this stuff sincie I was a kid. I figured they'd
>>>>stopped making it. It is absolutely aazing some of the stuff you can
>>>>find on the web. May buy some of this just for the Hell of it.
>>>>
>>>> Now I'm wondering if I can find any of the hard licorice stucks I
>>>>used to buy when I was a kid - about 6 inches long, as big around as
>>>>your finger, very hard, strong flavor, sold in an orange cardboard box,
>>>>for about a quarter. I think I'd definitely get some of those.
>>
>>Weren't they "Y&S" or something like that? I remember them as well. About
>>4" long and a good 3/8" or better thick
>>
>>
>>>Do you remember the NIBS licorice candy? :)
>>
>>Those you can still find, I think. Both black and cherry or strawberry
>>
>
>
> Nibs appear to still be around, Y&S not:
> http://tinyurl.com/36h563
> Kerry
>
>
Black Jack chewing gum.
Those little wax bottles filled with colored sugar water.
Vic Baron wrote:
> "J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> http://www.candydirect.com/mints/Sen-Sen.html
>>
>> I haven't seen this stuff sincie I was a kid. I figured they'd
>> stopped making it. It is absolutely aazing some of the stuff you can
>> find on the web. May buy some of this just for the Hell of it.
>>
>> Now I'm wondering if I can find any of the hard licorice stucks I
>> used to buy when I was a kid - about 6 inches long, as big around as
>> your finger, very hard, strong flavor, sold in an orange cardboard box,
>> for about a quarter. I think I'd definitely get some of those.
Weren't they "Y&S" or something like that? I remember them as well.
About 4" long and a good 3/8" or better thick
> Do you remember the NIBS licorice candy? :)
Those you can still find, I think. Both black and cherry or strawberry
J T wrote:
> http://www.candydirect.com/mints/Sen-Sen.html
>
> I haven't seen this stuff sincie I was a kid. I figured they'd
> stopped making it. It is absolutely aazing some of the stuff you can
> find on the web. May buy some of this just for the Hell of it.
>
> Snip
>
>
> JOAT
> When in doubt, go to sleep.
> - Mully Small
G'day all,
Surprising, but being on the other side of the world and things weren't
that much different.
I used to collect bottles and we would get tuppence (2 Pennies) for
large bottles and a penny for small ones.
It was amazing how many lollies you could get for a couple of bottles.
Around Cracker time bottles would be at a premium, as all the youngsters
would collect them and save the pennies for crackers. Gees I miss
Fireworks :(
When TV came to town, (about 1967) we lived on a farm and the nearest
"Big Town" was about 20 miles away pop. about 3000. it was a big moment.
Dad came home and took us all into town that night and we joined a crowd
standing on the footpath watching TV's in the shop window. The shop
was across the road from one of the towns pubs so all the blokes were
standing on the footpath watching telly and taking turns to go back into
the pub and buy the beers. Women were not allowed into public bars back
then.
Yep the Good Ol' Days, Some Good, Some not so good, but only good memories.
regards
John
In article <[email protected]>,
Bill in Detroit <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Grew up in the 60's in a small town in Penna. - victorian houses,
>tree-lined strrets with sidewalks, etc. There was a little store in
>town that sold penny candy. I remember filling our little red wagon
<...snipped...>
I also lived in a small Pa. town til I was 14. (Pottsville, at the
southern end of the anthracite coal region; population at that time
about 23,000i.) I remember some of my earliest woodworking took
place there. 8 oz bottles of Coca Cola were sold in wooden cases
holding 2 dozen. There was a nickel deposit on the case. A friend and I
would take a wagon down to the bottling plant. In the back where they
tossed the trash we would collect all the pieces of broken cases we
could find, take them home, nail them together, then take them to
the Acme supermarket & turn them in for the deposit.
--
When the game is over, the pawn and the king are returned to the same box.
Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf.lonestar.org
"Unquestionably Confused" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Vic Baron wrote:
>> "J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> http://www.candydirect.com/mints/Sen-Sen.html
>>>
>>> I haven't seen this stuff sincie I was a kid. I figured they'd
>>> stopped making it. It is absolutely aazing some of the stuff you can
>>> find on the web. May buy some of this just for the Hell of it.
>>>
>>> Now I'm wondering if I can find any of the hard licorice stucks I
>>> used to buy when I was a kid - about 6 inches long, as big around as
>>> your finger, very hard, strong flavor, sold in an orange cardboard box,
>>> for about a quarter. I think I'd definitely get some of those.
>
> Weren't they "Y&S" or something like that? I remember them as well. About
> 4" long and a good 3/8" or better thick
>
>> Do you remember the NIBS licorice candy? :)
>
> Those you can still find, I think. Both black and cherry or strawberry
>
Nibs appear to still be around, Y&S not:
http://tinyurl.com/36h563
Kerry
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 06:07:32 -0600, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>"tom watson" wrote in message
>
>> I'd like to take that walk again, with some smallish children - but
>> those stores are pretty much gone from here - sad.
>
>Amazing what memories that being 10 years old before you ever saw a TV will
>conjure.
>
>When's the last time, on a long summer's evening, when you could stay out
>until 9, did you catch a firefly and put it in a jar?
>
> ... or have even seen a firefly?
Now that one I do regularly with my grandsons every summer. My mom
even found an old time firefly cage at a church auction and bought it
for them. Get a few dozen in the cage (they catch most of them of
course) and you can pretty much call it a night for firefly hunting -
'til the next night of course.
Dave Hall
>The seers say the world will end on 12/21/11 ... it started in 1957.
"Lew Hodgett" wrote...
>=20
> If you have never heard of Sen-Sen, then you obviously came along=20
> after Hadacol and air raid practice drills where you turned out all=20
> the lights in town so the Nazis or the Japs couldn't find you in the=20
> event the were able to fly over your town.
>=20
> Shades of 911 knee jerk, only 60 years earlier.
>=20
> History does repeat itself.
Yes - in our era we had "duck & cover" drills where we had to hide under =
our school desks so we'd be ready when the Russians attacked.
--=20
Timothy Juvenal
www.tjwoodworking.com
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "tom watson" wrote in message
>
>> I'd like to take that walk again, with some smallish children - but
>> those stores are pretty much gone from here - sad.
>
> Amazing what memories that being 10 years old before you ever saw a TV
> will
> conjure.
>
> When's the last time, on a long summer's evening, when you could stay out
> until 9, did you catch a firefly and put it in a jar?
>
> ... or have even seen a firefly?
Haven't seen one since I moved from Pennsylvania to California in 1955 but
it does bring back memories of sitting in the back yard with my uncle and
dad and catching them.
We also had an Ice Cream Shop just down the street. We could buy an ice
cream bar for 10 cents and the best part was getting a stick that had the
word FREE printed on it!! Could get another right away. Also had small boxes
of popcorn that occasionally had a FREE slip inside.
Family got our first TV in 1947 when I was 10 years old ( yes, I AM an old
fart ). I remember that I was initially so disappointed that I couldn't SEE
my favorite radio shows. Didn't realize it was separate programming.
Boy, what a trip down memory lane - see what you started with your damn Sen
Sen JOAT??
:)
Vic
Fri, Mar 2, 2007, 11:42am (EST-3) [email protected] (Robatoy) doth
sayeth:
<snip> everything for a boy's rites of passage.
No chew? And my rites of passage included some first class
moonshine, around 120 proof, aged in the jar..
JOAT
It was too early in the morning for it to be early in the morning. That
was the only thing that he currently knew for sure.
- Clodpool
Ah yes, so much more popping back ito memory now. And, if you
ain't never heard of sen-sen, you're young..
I was born in 1940, so I was there for more than most of you, and
can still remember a lot of it. I rember the litle round ration things
from the war; and my old man alkng up the drive in his uiform with his
duffle bag on his shoulder, after he walked about a mile from the tracks
- no station there, the train crews did things like that for the
military guys back then.
I rember 2 cants for soda bottle, and 5 cents for the big ones.
Loved blackjack gum, but haven't seen that in years, I'd probably still
get some once in awhile. Spruce beer, birch beer, and ginger beer - I
know they probably still make th em just haven't seen any in years. And
ginger beer is NOT ginger ale. I don't quite recall what .22s cost, but
know I usually bought shorts because they were a bit less, longs if I
had some extra, and long rifles if I eally felt wealthy.. Paper covered
licorice "cigarettes". I remember the candy cigarettes too, but
licorice has always been my favorite candy. I remember my
great-gaandmother making corncob syrup - clean dry corncobs boiled with
sugar, no ide where the recipe came from but the syrup on pancakes was
great.
I rember collecting coke bottle that came from different parts of
the world too. Arabis lettering at times, others that looked like a
regular coke bottle, until you looked at the bottom and it would say
what country it came from.
Baby Ruth candy bars for a nickle, and the really big ones for a
quarter. A nickle could usually be spared, but not so often a quarter.
And Turkish taffy, that was so sweet it would almost make you sick - I
don't know if that's still around or not, and don't really care.
Chocolate malted milk shakes for a quarter, and once you'd drank it down
a few inches, the guy would pur the rest of it in your glass. Soda
fountains in the drug store, where you could get a glass of root beer
for a nickle.
We never saw any fireflys in MI, but down here I have them in my
front yard in the summer.
I remember RC Cola, but haven't seen that for a long time. And,
moon pies, also not seen. I never could see the reason for combining
the two, but would still have a moon pie and an RC Cola every once in
awhile. I used to put a pack of peanuts in my bottle of Pepsi too.
Plastic bottle just aren't quite the same as a glass bottle you would
set aside and later turn in at your local grocery store to get the two
cent deposit back.
Some things it's good to remeber, and some things technology should
h ave left alone.
And how many of you remember going thru a cow pasture - barefoot?
Been there, done that. Some things are good to remember, but not enough
so to repeat. LOL
JOAT
When in doubt, go to sleep.
- Mully Small
Damn, almost forot some of the best stuff.
Lunch break, mid winter, and walking about 14 mile to the store,
buying licorice whips, about 2 feet long, the cold freezing them on the
way back, and breaking off pieces to eat.
Getting dropped off at the movie theater, for the Saturday matinee,
for an hour of really good cartoons, the next episode of the serial, and
uaualy a western that was probably a pretty bad movie, with enough money
for the ticket, a drink, and a little candy. Life was good.
That movie theater has gone thru any number of changes, and I think
now that it's been restored and is a movie theater again.
I remember the really big tootsie rolls too. There were separated
into segments. Now all I see are the bags of the small pieces. Damn it,
I'd like to have one of those big ones, where I could bite off a piece,
wrap it up and save the rest for later. Some people always want to mess
with success.
I remember mking rock candy at home too, with the string in sugar
water. And pulling taffy once or twice - OK, but not worth the effort
as far as I'm ncerned. I remember popcorn balls too, even getting them
on halloween. And crackerjack for a nickle a box, with a neat price
inside - it's still around, just more pricey, only now seems like the
"prizes" are just something printed on paper.
JOAT
When in doubt, go to sleep.
- Mully Small
On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 12:36:08 GMT, Unquestionably Confused
<[email protected]> wrote:
... snip
>
>> know I usually bought shorts because they were a bit less, longs if I
>> had some extra, and long rifles if I eally felt wealthy..
>
>Y'know, that's one thing that's kinda odd. The price of .22s really has
>been remarkably stable. I don't think they've even doubled in price
>since I started buying them in the late 50's. If you shop carefully you
>can still buy a brick of 500 for ~ $10-$12 (long rifles at that, IIRC)
>
... back in those days, one could buy the rifle for not much more than
that (or so I've been told, repeatedly ;-) )
>
>> Paper covered licorice "cigarettes". I remember the candy cigarettes too, but
>> licorice has always been my favorite candy. I remember my
>
>Don't recall the former and you'll never see the latter. Not
>politically correct, don'tcha know<g>
>
Yeah, unfortunately. Those candy cigarrettes used to be a favorite. Not
because of the fact they were pretend ciggy's, but because I liked the
flavor of them. ... and no, I never was ever tempted to start smoking even
though we had candy cigarettes and people on TV smoked; somehow, we were
smarter than that.
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On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:00:53 -0500, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:
> Ah yes, so much more popping back ito memory now. And, if you
>ain't never heard of sen-sen, you're young..
>
> I was born in 1940, so I was there for more than most of you, and
>can still remember a lot of it. I rember the litle round ration things
>from the war; and my old man alkng up the drive in his uiform with his
>duffle bag on his shoulder, after he walked about a mile from the tracks
>- no station there, the train crews did things like that for the
>military guys back then.
>
> I rember 2 cants for soda bottle, and 5 cents for the big ones.
>Loved blackjack gum, but haven't seen that in years, I'd probably still
>get some once in awhile. Spruce beer, birch beer, and ginger beer - I
>know they probably still make th em just haven't seen any in years. And
>ginger beer is NOT ginger ale. I don't quite recall what .22s cost, but
>know I usually bought shorts because they were a bit less, longs if I
>had some extra, and long rifles if I eally felt wealthy.. Paper covered
>licorice "cigarettes". I remember the candy cigarettes too, but
>licorice has always been my favorite candy. I remember my
>great-gaandmother making corncob syrup - clean dry corncobs boiled with
>sugar, no ide where the recipe came from but the syrup on pancakes was
>great.
>
> I rember collecting coke bottle that came from different parts of
>the world too. Arabis lettering at times, others that looked like a
>regular coke bottle, until you looked at the bottom and it would say
>what country it came from.
>
> Baby Ruth candy bars for a nickle, and the really big ones for a
>quarter. A nickle could usually be spared, but not so often a quarter.
>And Turkish taffy, that was so sweet it would almost make you sick - I
>don't know if that's still around or not, and don't really care.
>Chocolate malted milk shakes for a quarter, and once you'd drank it down
>a few inches, the guy would pur the rest of it in your glass. Soda
>fountains in the drug store, where you could get a glass of root beer
>for a nickle.
I remember Debbie O'Neal, cutest girl in the high school (everybody
thought Pegi Carter was but that was just because Pegi was blonde with
big 'uns), jerking sodas at Steger's drug store after school. If she
liked you you'd get an extra shot of syrup. When I was a pre-schooler
you could still get a Coke out of a machine for a nickel, but by the
time I was out of high school a 16 ounce was a quarter if I remember
correctly.
>
> We never saw any fireflys in MI, but down here I have them in my
>front yard in the summer.
I never see a lot of them in the summer in CT but there are usually a
half dozen or so flashing away.
> I remember RC Cola, but haven't seen that for a long time. And,
>moon pies, also not seen. I never could see the reason for combining
>the two, but would still have a moon pie and an RC Cola every once in
>awhile. I used to put a pack of peanuts in my bottle of Pepsi too.
>Plastic bottle just aren't quite the same as a glass bottle you would
>set aside and later turn in at your local grocery store to get the two
>cent deposit back.
RC yet lives
<http://www.amazon.com/RC-Cola-Liter-Bottle-67-6/dp/B00032IN5E/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/002-5925614-1035224?ie=UTF8&s=gourmet-food&qid=1172865547&sr=8-2>.
Moonpies as well
<http://www.amazon.com/Moon-Pie-Chocolate/dp/B0001VS9KQ/ref=sr_1_1/002-5925614-1035224?ie=UTF8&s=gourmet-food&qid=1172865650&sr=1-1>
As for the glass bottle, google "rc cola proposition 65". Lock up
your weapons first or you may find yourself locking, loading, and
looking for the nearest lawyer.
My favorite beverage when I was a kid was Grapette, had its own
uniquely shaped bottle. Now that I haven't seen in decades. Googling
I find that it disappeared from the US market and was finally revived
by Wal-Mart of all people.
> Some things it's good to remeber, and some things technology should
>h ave left alone.
>
> And how many of you remember going thru a cow pasture - barefoot?
>Been there, done that. Some things are good to remember, but not enough
>so to repeat. LOL
>
>
>
>JOAT
>When in doubt, go to sleep.
>- Mully Small
Fri, Mar 2, 2007, 3:15pm [email protected] (J.=A0Clarke) doth
sayeth:
<snip> RC yet lives
<snip> Moonpies as well
<snip> As for the glass bottle, google "rc cola proposition 65". Lock up
your weapons first or you may find yourself locking, loading, and
looking for the nearest lawyer. <snip>
I kinda thought RC and moonpies might be still around. Hasn't been
that many years since I've seen them. Just haven't bothered checking,
or noticing.
I don't hunt any more, but seriously considering getting a license.
Problem is, the lawyers are fighting the prospect of an open season, or
even a limited bag limit. Can't uderstand tt myself, I figure the herd
should be trimmed..
JOAT
It was too early in the morning for it to be early in the morning. That
was the only thing that he currently knew for sure.
- Clodpool
J T wrote:
> Ah yes, so much more popping back ito memory now. And, if you
> ain't never heard of sen-sen, you're young..
You said it!
> I remember 2 cants for soda bottle, and 5 cents for the big ones.
Ah, yes, fabulous wealth for a youngster. Recall walking into the
suburban town we lived in circa 1955 and using net-type shopping bags
like my grandmother carried. Walk was only about 3/4 mi but generally
you could fill up two bags with both the quart bottles and smaller
bottles. Wasn't unusual to score a buck's worth of deposits at the
local liquor store which, conveniently, was on end of the business
district closest to my home<g>. Talk about rolling in the clover<g>
> Loved blackjack gum, but haven't seen that in years, I'd probably still
> get some once in awhile. Spruce beer, birch beer, and ginger beer - I
Black Jack gum's available from the same link that had all the other
candy, etc. I still see it now and then as a "special" at certain
stores - seen it (and other vintage candies) at, of all places, The
Hobby Lobby stores.
> know they probably still make th em just haven't seen any in years. And
> ginger beer is NOT ginger ale. I don't quite recall what .22s cost, but
Pretty common stuff. You can find it at most any good liquor store or
food store.
> know I usually bought shorts because they were a bit less, longs if I
> had some extra, and long rifles if I eally felt wealthy..
Y'know, that's one thing that's kinda odd. The price of .22s really has
been remarkably stable. I don't think they've even doubled in price
since I started buying them in the late 50's. If you shop carefully you
can still buy a brick of 500 for ~ $10-$12 (long rifles at that, IIRC)
> Paper covered licorice "cigarettes". I remember the candy cigarettes too, but
> licorice has always been my favorite candy. I remember my
Don't recall the former and you'll never see the latter. Not
politically correct, don'tcha know<g>
> I rember collecting coke bottle that came from different parts of
> the world too. Arabis lettering at times, others that looked like a
> regular coke bottle, until you looked at the bottom and it would say
> what country it came from.
Yeppers. While on board ship in the late 60's we had the Coke in the
8oz bottles. We'd be playing cards and such and just grab a bottle.
Always in a betting mood, guy with the bottle closest to our present
location would pay for the round.
Sat, Mar 3, 2007, 12:36pm (EST+5) [email protected]
(Unquestionably=A0Confused) doth sayeth:
<snip> The price of .22s really has been remarkably stable. I don't
think they've even doubled in price since I started buying them in the
late 50's. If you shop carefully you can still buy a brick of 500 for ~
$10-$12 (long rifles at that, IIRC) <snip>
THE .22 ammo of choice was always Winchester Super-X, everyone knew
it was more powerful. You only bought another brand when the Super-Xs
were sold out. Seems to me you could even buy single rounds too. Don't
remember the exact price but know it was around 50 cents a box of 50 -
which would make it around $5 for a brick of 500 - I only recall ONE of
those being bought. I just DAGS and a brick of Super-X can be got for
$19.77, not including shipping, about four times increase. That's for
solid points, hollow points are a bit higher. Nowadays for plinking I
usually get the cheapest I can find. For accuracy I'm willing to go
higher tha the Super-X priceing. Nothing quite like a day spent
knocking tin cans around with a .22. Nowadays, if you can even find a
place to shoot, seems like someone is bound to bitch about the "noise".
JOAT
It was too early in the morning for it to be early in the morning. That
was the only thing that he currently knew for sure.
- Clodpool
On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:00:53 -0500, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
> Ah yes, so much more popping back ito memory now. And, if you
>ain't never heard of sen-sen, you're young..
>
... snip
>
> I rember 2 cants for soda bottle, and 5 cents for the big ones.
>Loved blackjack gum, but haven't seen that in years, I'd probably still
>get some once in awhile. Spruce beer, birch beer, and ginger beer - I
>know they probably still make th em just haven't seen any in years. And
>ginger beer is NOT ginger ale.
Cracker Barrel restaurants carry a number of those products. I know I've
seen Blackjack gum there. They also have Stewart's Orange soda -- yum!
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Fri, Mar 2, 2007, 2:26pm (EST-2) [email protected]
(Mark=A0&=A0Juanita) doth sayeth:
=A0=A0=A0=A0Cracker Barrel restaurants carry a number of those products.
I know I've seen Blackjack gum there. They also have Stewart's Orange
soda -- yum!
Alas, I'll probably never find out then. I've only eaten at
Cracker Barrel a couple of times, had about the worst prepared food I've
ever ran across. I don't tcare to try them again.
JOAT
It was too early in the morning for it to be early in the morning. That
was the only thing that he currently knew for sure.
- Clodpool
On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 10:14:33 -0500, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
>Fri, Mar 2, 2007, 2:26pm (EST-2) [email protected]
>(Mark & Juanita) doth sayeth:
> Cracker Barrel restaurants carry a number of those products.
>I know I've seen Blackjack gum there. They also have Stewart's Orange
>soda -- yum!
>
> Alas, I'll probably never find out then. I've only eaten at
>Cracker Barrel a couple of times, had about the worst prepared food I've
>ever ran across. I don't tcare to try them again.
>
You don't need to eat there, just go into their store front, find the
Blackjack gum and buy it without even going into the restaurant.
The Cracker Barrels around here are pretty good, I'm surprised to hear
that they don't measure up in other places.
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"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My neighbourhood candy store was also the source for my first
> cigarettes.
> They had singles of a really cheap brand and they were awful. But,
> they were good enough to get a nice little addiction out of them.
> Same little store:
> candy
> cigarettes
> genever
> condoms
>
> everything for a boy's rites of passage.
>
I also remember putting a quarter in a cigarette machine for a pack of Lucky
Strike ( remember those?) and getting a pack with two pennies inside the
wrapper AND a pack of matches.
JT - licorice has always been my favorite also - remember the licorice
"pipes" and "cigars" they uses to have? Loved those.
And I won't go into the embarrassment of going into a drugstore to buy
condoms and getting a lady clerk who knew my family - talk about rites of
passage.
"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Fri, Mar 2, 2007, 7:53pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Vic Baron) doth
query:
<snip> JT - licorice has always been my favorite also - remember the
licorice "pipes" and "cigars" they uses to have? Loved those. <snip>
Ah, yes, now I do. Always seems just a bit "off" in taste tho.
Maybe they added something to let 'em keep their shape. The licorice
whips, way longer than the imitations today, had the best taste. They'd
get like a piece of rope in hot weather, and stiff enough to snape into
pieces in cold.
The licorice ropes are still being made, 2 or 3 feet long. The candy
cigaretts and pipes are still being made but I haven't seen them in stores
for a long time but the web site that the OP posted for the sen sen sells a
lot of the obscure candy.
--
Roger Shoaf
If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent.
Sat, Mar 3, 2007, 11:06am (EST-3) [email protected] (Roger=A0Shoaf)
doth sayteth:
The licorice ropes are still being made, 2 or 3 feet long. The candy
cigaretts and pipes are still being made but I haven't seen them in
stores for a long time but the web site that the OP posted for the sen
sen sells a lot of the obscure candy.
The original poster has not taken time yet to look at all of the
site. And one of the last things he needs is candy. The reason I know
is because that's me But I'm willcheck it out and buy some anyway.
JOAT
It was too early in the morning for it to be early in the morning. That
was the only thing that he currently knew for sure.
- Clodpool
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Roger Shoaf wrote:
>
> > The licorice ropes are still being made, 2 or 3 feet long.
>
> My customer probably has 80% of the US market.
>
> Manufacturing located in the SF Bay area along with a lot of other candy
> manufacturing companies.
>
> Fun to watch it being extruded, cut to length, and packaged.
>
> I'm a red guy myself. Never acquired a taste for the black.
>
> Lew
Would that be the American Licorice Co. in Union city or Freemont?
I used to drive a truck and I hauled several truckloads of their product.
My preference is for the red, but I like the black also. I remember getting
a big tub of the red one time and every time I would walk by the table I
would grab several of them without thinking too much about it. The next day
I had a bit of a worry when I noticed the color of my discharge was rather
red. At first I was thinking I was bleeding down there until I realized
that it was all of the red licorice I ate the day before.
--
Roger Shoaf
About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.
Fri, Mar 2, 2007, 7:53pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Vic=A0Baron) doth
query:
<snip> JT - licorice has always been my favorite also - remember the
licorice "pipes" and "cigars" they uses to have? Loved those. <snip>
Ah, yes, now I do. Always seems just a bit "off" in taste tho.
Maybe they added something to let 'em keep their shape. The licorice
whips, way longer than the imitations today, had the best taste. They'd
get like a piece of rope in hot weather, and stiff enough to snape into
pieces in cold.
Another of my favorites, were the malted milk balls. Nothing like
the lame chocolate covered imitations to today, these were solid bals,
no covering, and tasted absolutely wonderful. I remember the first ones
I had were when I visited the doctor and he would give me one before I
left. Haven't seen any of those in probably 50 years. Anyone know if
they're still around? Ah, doesn't matter, the taste has probably been
changed even it they are.
JOAT
It was too early in the morning for it to be early in the morning. That
was the only thing that he currently knew for sure.
- Clodpool
Roger Shoaf wrote:
> The licorice ropes are still being made, 2 or 3 feet long.
My customer probably has 80% of the US market.
Manufacturing located in the SF Bay area along with a lot of other candy
manufacturing companies.
Fun to watch it being extruded, cut to length, and packaged.
I'm a red guy myself. Never acquired a taste for the black.
Lew
On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 00:26:05 GMT, Unquestionably Confused
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Mark & Juanita wrote:
>> On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 12:36:08 GMT, Unquestionably Confused
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> ... snip
>>>> know I usually bought shorts because they were a bit less, longs if I
>>>> had some extra, and long rifles if I eally felt wealthy..
>>> Y'know, that's one thing that's kinda odd. The price of .22s really has
>>> been remarkably stable. I don't think they've even doubled in price
>>> since I started buying them in the late 50's. If you shop carefully you
>>> can still buy a brick of 500 for ~ $10-$12 (long rifles at that, IIRC)
>>>
>>
>> ... back in those days, one could buy the rifle for not much more than
>> that (or so I've been told, repeatedly ;-) )
>
>I bought my kid brother a .22 single shot at Monkey Wards back around
>1968 for something less than $35.
>
Was thinking of my granddad telling us about buying boxes of ammo for 10
cents and a good rifle for $15 to $20. (Think that was in the 30's though)
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Mark & Juanita wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 12:36:08 GMT, Unquestionably Confused
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> ... snip
>>> know I usually bought shorts because they were a bit less, longs if I
>>> had some extra, and long rifles if I eally felt wealthy..
>> Y'know, that's one thing that's kinda odd. The price of .22s really has
>> been remarkably stable. I don't think they've even doubled in price
>> since I started buying them in the late 50's. If you shop carefully you
>> can still buy a brick of 500 for ~ $10-$12 (long rifles at that, IIRC)
>>
>
> ... back in those days, one could buy the rifle for not much more than
> that (or so I've been told, repeatedly ;-) )
I bought my kid brother a .22 single shot at Monkey Wards back around
1968 for something less than $35.
As for JOAT and his high falutin' Super-X... Well, sure you can spend
more but even today (and I just just checked) I can buy Remington
Thunderbolt .22 LR for $1.19 a box at Farm & Fleet. That's regular
price. Even buying 10 boxes to make a brick that's only $11.90 and I
know they're cheaper when sold as a brick. I don't recall them being as
cheap in the early to mid-60's as JOAT does. I was thinking along the
lines of $0.60-$0.75 a box for shorts, maybe a dime more for longs and
long rifles still under a buck.
But you're right, JOAT, one could sure have a ball with a couple boxes
of .22 cartridges. Last time I really kicked loose with some .22s was
out in Oklahoma circa 1970. Vacationing and visiting a friend. Her
father took us out to the family farm and they had a half acre "stock
tank" which we call a pond back in Illinois. Pond had water moccasins
and other vermin aplenty. We had a brick of .22's and semi-autos.
Great way to spend an afternoon.
Not quite as much fun as "plinking" with fully suppressed H&K MP5 with
sub-sonic rounds but close<g>
>>> Paper covered licorice "cigarettes". I remember the candy cigarettes too, but
>>> licorice has always been my favorite candy. I remember my
>> Don't recall the former and you'll never see the latter. Not
>> politically correct, don'tcha know<g>
>>
>
> Yeah, unfortunately. Those candy cigarrettes used to be a favorite. Not
> because of the fact they were pretend ciggy's, but because I liked the
> flavor of them.
Yeah, they did have a rather unique flavor, didn't they? I still like
Ju-Ju-Be's (Sp?) Kinda tricky finding the ones that taste like the
originals. They're out there but there seems to be some fluctuation in
the recipe. Some taste like the originals, others are just too sweet.
Ah, the trials of life!
Sun, Mar 4, 2007, 12:26am (EST+5) [email protected]
(Unquestionably=A0Confused) doth sayeth:
<snip> As for JOAT and his high falutin' Super-X... Well, sure you can
spend more but even today (and I just just checked) I can buy Remington
Thunderbolt .22 LR for $1.19 a box at Farm & Fleet. That's regular
price. Even buying 10 boxes to make a brick that's only $11.90 and I
know they're cheaper when sold as a brick. I don't recall them being as
cheap in the early to mid-60's as JOAT does. <snip>
But you're right, JOAT, one could sure have a ball with a couple boxes
of .22 cartridges. Last time I really kicked loose with some .22s was
out in Oklahoma circa 1970. <snip>
Not quite as much fun as "plinking" with fully suppressed H&K MP5 with
sub-sonic rounds but close<g>
Yeah, that's great plinking ammo, but you don't get real accuracy
with that stuff. And the prices I was stating weren't from the mid
'60s, rather mid '50s era.
The last time I really had a chance to do some really good .22
shooting was probably around 1980. Shooting at about 100 yards and my
neighbor was using a scoped rifle. He got a bit miffed because I was
outshooting him with a open-sighted High Standard Victor. Sure wish I
had that now, but got stolen some years back. Got it while I was in Ft
hood. The indoor range was about a block or two from my work and i
used to go there on my luch you. They supplied weapons, or you could
take your own, .22 only, and they'd let you hve 50 free rounds a day.
Nice way to take a break.
I got ahold of an M2 carbine in Nam. POS full auto, usually jammed
by the thrird round, but on semi it was totally reliable. Put a load of
ammo thru it, and got good enough I could usually hit a soda can at 50
feet by at least the second shot, and then kept it moving - firing from
the hip. Like I said, I put a LOT of ammo thru it. It was fun but I
loved my M14.
JOAT
It was too early in the morning for it to be early in the morning. That
was the only thing that he currently knew for sure.
- Clodpool
On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 05:43:48 +0000 (UTC),
[email protected] (Larry W) wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>Bill in Detroit <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Grew up in the 60's in a small town in Penna. - victorian houses,
>>tree-lined strrets with sidewalks, etc. There was a little store in
>>town that sold penny candy. I remember filling our little red wagon
><...snipped...>
>
>I also lived in a small Pa. town til I was 14. (Pottsville, at the
>southern end of the anthracite coal region; population at that time
>about 23,000i.) I remember some of my earliest woodworking took
>place there. 8 oz bottles of Coca Cola were sold in wooden cases
>holding 2 dozen. There was a nickel deposit on the case. A friend and I
>would take a wagon down to the bottling plant. In the back where they
>tossed the trash we would collect all the pieces of broken cases we
>could find, take them home, nail them together, then take them to
>the Acme supermarket & turn them in for the deposit.
You lived in a sacred town to a Yeungling drinker but I'll bet those
Cokes were 6 1/2 Oz.
Can't get them anymore but you can get the 8 oz.
When one of the granddaughters was six, we took an overnight trip.
Stopped and got out when I saw fireflies on the side of the road.
She had never seen one, and I couldn't tell you the last time for
me. Why don't we have them in the cities anymore?? DDT?
Small bottles were 2 cents and big ones were a nickel. We used
to beg all the neighbors for newspapers and bottles, it would buy
some candy and maybe a comic book, it almost made me cry when they
went to 12¢. I can remember the ice man coming to sell us ice
before the refrigerator and another man collected rags. When
they told us to bring pens to school to learn cursive, it was a
fountain pen.
Good memories! Gee, I'm getting old.
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"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "tom watson" wrote in message
>
>> I'd like to take that walk again, with some smallish children -
>> but
>> those stores are pretty much gone from here - sad.
>
> Amazing what memories that being 10 years old before you ever
> saw a TV will
> conjure.
>
> When's the last time, on a long summer's evening, when you could
> stay out
> until 9, did you catch a firefly and put it in a jar?
>
> ... or have even seen a firefly?
>
> The seers say the world will end on 12/21/11 ... it started in
> 1957.
>
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>
>
"tom watson" wrote in message
> I'd like to take that walk again, with some smallish children - but
> those stores are pretty much gone from here - sad.
Amazing what memories that being 10 years old before you ever saw a TV will
conjure.
When's the last time, on a long summer's evening, when you could stay out
until 9, did you catch a firefly and put it in a jar?
... or have even seen a firefly?
The seers say the world will end on 12/21/11 ... it started in 1957.
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"Vic Baron" wrote in message
> "Swingman" wrote in message
> > Amazing what memories that being 10 years old before you ever saw a TV
> > will conjure.
> Family got our first TV in 1947 when I was 10 years old ( yes, I AM an old
> fart ). I remember that I was initially so disappointed that I couldn't
SEE
> my favorite radio shows. Didn't realize it was separate programming.
We got our first in '52 ... remember the gray scale "Indian Chief"
brightness/contrast adjustment screen that was on 20 hours a day?
Before we got one, a local furniture stores had one in their window that we
used to stop at after driving in to buy the obligatory Saturday night ice
cream cones. Half the town would be there on the sidewalk watching.
How times have changed since the camel stuck his nose under the tent.
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Fri, Mar 2, 2007, 3:49pm (EST-1) [email protected] (Swingman) doth sayeth:
We got our first in '52 ... remember the gray scale "Indian Chief"
brightness/contrast adjustment screen that was on 20 hours a day?
<snip> How times have changed since the camel stuck his nose under the
tent.
We moved when I was in the 7th grade, and got a TV sometime after
that. Before that all the neighborhood kids went to the only neighbor
with a TV (and no kids) and watched the Lone Ranger. He'd hav watched
it anyway, only had one station. But I still listened to the Green
Hornet, Tarzan, The Shadow, Amos & Andy, Fibber McGee & Molly, Sgt
Preston of the Yukon, and I don't know what all else.
Yep, now you can even buy a pocket size "color" TV, for about $100,
maybe less. If I want to carry something along for entertainment it'll
be a book, first choice, or a portable radio - they've got a 24 hour
classical station her, when they don't ruin it with some opera - got
nothing against opera, IF it's in English, just never saw the point of
listening to singing in a language I can't understand. Come to that,
the way a lot of the singers sing, operat or not, I can't understand
them even if they're singing in English. .
JOAT
It was too early in the morning for it to be early in the morning. That
was the only thing that he currently knew for sure.
- Clodpool