Tt

"Thomas"

06/05/2004 4:54 PM

Opinion on Delta and Ryobi

Hi,

I am looking to purchace some cordless tools in the very near future. At
present I do not have any tools at all except for a few basic manual tools.
:) Seeing that I will barely use the tools compared to most of you lads I
figure the best way to get started would be to purchase a small combo kit.
The two kits that are in my small budget are one from Ryobi and one from
Delta.

DELTA
http://www.deltawoodworking.com/index.asp?e=136&p=4875

RYOBI (NOT OFFICIAL WEBPAGE)
http://www.cumminstools.com/browse.cfm/4,1142.html


I am leaning towards the Delta simply because I do not need a flashlight and
vacum. :) But I have no idea of the quality of Delta tools.

Any opinions or suggestions would be great!

Thanks in advanced.

Cheers!


This topic has 23 replies

qQ

[email protected] (Quadindad2)

in reply to "Thomas" on 06/05/2004 4:54 PM

07/05/2004 1:13 PM

I had a Ryobi 12v cordless drill. I now have a Delta 6 pack. I have been using
the six pack heavily for the last 3 weeks in a remodeling project. I'm very
happy with it.
John

MJ

"Mark Jerde"

in reply to "Thomas" on 06/05/2004 4:54 PM

07/05/2004 1:31 PM

Thomas wrote:
> Mark,
> What brand of tool did you buy? Do mean Delta or Ryobi specifically?

Black & Decker... I was young and didn't know any better. ;-)

-- Mark

> "Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Thomas wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am looking to purchace some cordless tools in the very near
>>> future.
>>
>> Walk by the replacement battery section as part of your decision. I
>> didn't do this when I bought my 13.2 v drill. I need a new battery
>> but they're hard to find and expensive.
>>
>> $0.02
>>
>> -- Mark

Tt

"Thomas"

in reply to "Thomas" on 06/05/2004 4:54 PM

07/05/2004 11:57 AM

Hi Brian,

I am in Canada as often as I am in US. I could only find the Delta combo
pack at Rona. (not sure if they are nation wide). What other stores carry
the Delta line. I might as well shop around.

Cheers!


"Brian L" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The Delta line of drills, etc. is pretty comparable to the Ryobi. My
> understanding is that was the target market for the line - Delta wanted to
> compete with Ryobi, Mastercraft and other low - middle of the line tools.
> Neither are a top-notch contender - but you have a budget and you need to
> spend accordingly.
>
> That said - up here in Canada, the Ryobi line is limited to Home Depo.
The
> Delta line is all over the place. If you think about battery replacement,
> etc., you might be better off with Delta. Check the price of replacement
> batteries for both, but if you're looking to get a replacement battery 2
or
> 3 years down the road, you might have better changes with the Delta.
>
> Brian
>
>
> "Thomas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am looking to purchace some cordless tools in the very near future.
At
> > present I do not have any tools at all except for a few basic manual
> tools.
> > :) Seeing that I will barely use the tools compared to most of you lads
I
> > figure the best way to get started would be to purchase a small combo
kit.
> > The two kits that are in my small budget are one from Ryobi and one from
> > Delta.
> >
> > DELTA
> > http://www.deltawoodworking.com/index.asp?e=136&p=4875
> >
> > RYOBI (NOT OFFICIAL WEBPAGE)
> > http://www.cumminstools.com/browse.cfm/4,1142.html
> >
> >
> > I am leaning towards the Delta simply because I do not need a flashlight
> and
> > vacum. :) But I have no idea of the quality of Delta tools.
> >
> > Any opinions or suggestions would be great!
> >
> > Thanks in advanced.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> >
>
>

Tn

"Thomas"

in reply to "Thomas" on 06/05/2004 4:54 PM

06/05/2004 9:22 PM

Mark,
What brand of tool did you buy? Do mean Delta or Ryobi specifically?




"Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thomas wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am looking to purchace some cordless tools in the very near future.
>
> Walk by the replacement battery section as part of your decision. I
didn't
> do this when I bought my 13.2 v drill. I need a new battery but they're
> hard to find and expensive.
>
> $0.02
>
> -- Mark
>
>

rB

in reply to "Thomas" on 06/05/2004 4:54 PM

09/05/2004 9:52 PM

The current issue of Consumer Reports rates cordless drills, but Delta
is not included in the lineup.

Ba

B a r r y

in reply to "Thomas" on 06/05/2004 4:54 PM

07/05/2004 12:16 AM

On Thu, 06 May 2004 21:09:36 GMT, "Mark Jerde"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Thomas wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am looking to purchace some cordless tools in the very near future.
>
>Walk by the replacement battery section as part of your decision.

You'll often notice that the Makita batteries are very dusty, as
they've been there a while.

And this will draw some polarized response, I actually like some
DeWalt cordless tools, especially drills. <G>

Barry

md

"mttt"

in reply to "Thomas" on 06/05/2004 4:54 PM

06/05/2004 10:33 PM


"Thomas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> I am leaning towards the Delta simply because I do not need a flashlight
and
> vacum. :) But I have no idea of the quality of Delta tools.

Delta *usually* makes quality tools. I have some Delta tools and I have some
Ryobi's. In this case, I'd follow your logic and pick the Delta set because
it has more things that I'd use.

I'd set my expectations that these are going to be light to medium duty
tools.

Tt

"Thomas"

in reply to "Thomas" on 06/05/2004 4:54 PM

07/05/2004 9:19 AM

Thanks for the feedback.

From what I gather the Delta is the set I will choose seeing that:

1) battery recharge time is shorter (it has a 1 hour quick charge)
2) I do not need a vacum or flashlight (which the Ryobi has :) )
3) Seeing that I am just starting out the amount of work these tools will
see is limited which hopefully means they will last a bit longer.


Question:
When recharging the battery should I remove the battery from the charger
when its done? Or can I simply leave it in there for a long time. I may
not have to use the battery for weeks etc.




"Thomas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
>
> I am looking to purchace some cordless tools in the very near future. At
> present I do not have any tools at all except for a few basic manual
tools.
> :) Seeing that I will barely use the tools compared to most of you lads I
> figure the best way to get started would be to purchase a small combo kit.
> The two kits that are in my small budget are one from Ryobi and one from
> Delta.
>
> DELTA
> http://www.deltawoodworking.com/index.asp?e=136&p=4875
>
> RYOBI (NOT OFFICIAL WEBPAGE)
> http://www.cumminstools.com/browse.cfm/4,1142.html
>
>
> I am leaning towards the Delta simply because I do not need a flashlight
and
> vacum. :) But I have no idea of the quality of Delta tools.
>
> Any opinions or suggestions would be great!
>
> Thanks in advanced.
>
> Cheers!
>
>

Pj

"P©WÉ®T©©LMAN ²ºº4"

in reply to "Thomas" on 06/05/2004 4:54 PM

06/05/2004 11:32 PM


"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> > >> I am looking to purchace some cordless tools in the very near future.
> > >
>
> I have a Ryobi 14.4 drill and saw. They get light use in a home shop.
After
> 16 months, the variable speed drill is no longer variable and the
batteries
> do not hold a charge very long any more.
>
> It is a nice size and weight, has enough power for my needs and worked
well
> until recently. Things do break and wear out but I think the switch could
> have held up longer.
> Ed
> [email protected]
> http://pages.cthome.net/edhome

I know I've said it before but Ryobi's cordless drill switches & batteries
in the last five or six years have been their biggest weaknesses especially
in the Techtronic made Ryobi drills, the rest of the drill however seems to
hold up quite well for the price.


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"P©WÉ®T©©LMAN ²ºº4"

in reply to "Thomas" on 06/05/2004 4:54 PM

07/05/2004 9:28 AM


"Ed S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have an
> perfectly
> good Milwaukee drill that I can't get a battery for. It's like
> 15-18yrs. old.
> Is there a source for them anywhere?
> Ed

What model # is the drill?
do you have your old battery, if so what is the part # on it? 48-11-????

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"P©WÉ®T©©LMAN ²ºº4"

in reply to "Thomas" on 06/05/2004 4:54 PM

07/05/2004 10:05 PM


"Ed S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "P©WÉ®T©©LMAN ²ºº4"
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > "Ed S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > I have an
> > > perfectly
> > > good Milwaukee drill that I can't get a battery for. It's like
> > > 15-18yrs. old.
> > > Is there a source for them anywhere?
> > > Ed
> >
> > What model # is the drill?
> > do you have your old battery, if so what is the part # on it?
48-11-????
>
> It's a 12 volt drill model# 0401-1 and the battery has the # 48-11-0140.
> The batteries I have still hold a charge but for only about ten minutes so
> I can't really do much with it. It ok to put in a few screws or something
> but that's about it. Thanks
> Ed

You will probably have to use the 48-11-0200 1.7Ah Super tough version of
that battery unless you settle for old stock it's still the same format just
a better battery when it first replaced the 1.4Ah 0140 it was only about $10
more. There is also a more recent 48-11-0250 2Ah Super tough II for about
another $10 more & even a 2.5Ah fat pack for quite a bit more.

I use the 0200's daily with mine & am seeing much improved performance, I
also replaced my worn motor & upgraded the chuck to a 1/2" keyless (3/8
spindle) chuck.

I have 5 batteries ( three over 5 years old 0140's still going & good for
light power tool housing assembly in the shop) (one 0200 about two years old
good for medium drilling & screwing) & (one new 0200 that I use for really
extreme demands) the drill has been used 1-2hrs a day five days a week for
five or six years in our service dept, the upgraded motor & larger chuck &
new Super tough battery was well worth doing. The drill has paid for it's
self ten times over.


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"Brian L"

in reply to "Thomas" on 06/05/2004 4:54 PM

07/05/2004 11:07 AM

The Delta line of drills, etc. is pretty comparable to the Ryobi. My
understanding is that was the target market for the line - Delta wanted to
compete with Ryobi, Mastercraft and other low - middle of the line tools.
Neither are a top-notch contender - but you have a budget and you need to
spend accordingly.

That said - up here in Canada, the Ryobi line is limited to Home Depo. The
Delta line is all over the place. If you think about battery replacement,
etc., you might be better off with Delta. Check the price of replacement
batteries for both, but if you're looking to get a replacement battery 2 or
3 years down the road, you might have better changes with the Delta.

Brian


"Thomas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
>
> I am looking to purchace some cordless tools in the very near future. At
> present I do not have any tools at all except for a few basic manual
tools.
> :) Seeing that I will barely use the tools compared to most of you lads I
> figure the best way to get started would be to purchase a small combo kit.
> The two kits that are in my small budget are one from Ryobi and one from
> Delta.
>
> DELTA
> http://www.deltawoodworking.com/index.asp?e=136&p=4875
>
> RYOBI (NOT OFFICIAL WEBPAGE)
> http://www.cumminstools.com/browse.cfm/4,1142.html
>
>
> I am leaning towards the Delta simply because I do not need a flashlight
and
> vacum. :) But I have no idea of the quality of Delta tools.
>
> Any opinions or suggestions would be great!
>
> Thanks in advanced.
>
> Cheers!
>
>

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "Thomas" on 06/05/2004 4:54 PM

07/05/2004 1:33 PM


"P©WÉ®T©©LMAN ²ºº4" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BqDmc.63800

> I know I've said it before but Ryobi's cordless drill switches & batteries
> in the last five or six years have been their biggest weaknesses
especially
> in the Techtronic made Ryobi drills, the rest of the drill however seems
to
> hold up quite well for the price.
>

Since you mentioned it, I just ordered a new switch. With shipping it is
$27.00. Cheaper than a new drill as long as the batteries continue to hold
up.

Ordering over the phone is a long ordeal. Ordering on line at
www.ordertree.com is faster. I called the 800 number and the recording told
you about the web site. I was able to find the part number, place the order
and I was still on hold.
Ed

rE

in reply to "Thomas" on 06/05/2004 4:54 PM

06/05/2004 10:29 PM

"mttt" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "Thomas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> >
> >
> > I am leaning towards the Delta simply because I do not need a flashlight
> and
> > vacum. :) But I have no idea of the quality of Delta tools.
>
> Delta *usually* makes quality tools. I have some Delta tools and I have some
> Ryobi's. In this case, I'd follow your logic and pick the Delta set because
> it has more things that I'd use.
>
> I'd set my expectations that these are going to be light to medium duty
> tools.

My son has the Ryobi set and he's happy with it. I've used the sawzall
for
trimming trees and it works great. That palm sander and brad nailer
might be something to think about. I doubt if the jig saw is worth
worrying about.
Anyone use one of those? I guess it depends on what tools you want.
I'm sure
they are both good sets. The battery issue is important. I have an
perfectly
good Milwaukee drill that I can't get a battery for. It's like
15-18yrs. old.
Is there a source for them anywhere?
Ed

rE

in reply to "Thomas" on 06/05/2004 4:54 PM

07/05/2004 2:37 PM

"P©WÉ®T©©LMAN ²ºº4" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "Ed S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I have an
> > perfectly
> > good Milwaukee drill that I can't get a battery for. It's like
> > 15-18yrs. old.
> > Is there a source for them anywhere?
> > Ed
>
> What model # is the drill?
> do you have your old battery, if so what is the part # on it? 48-11-????

It's a 12 volt drill model# 0401-1 and the battery has the # 48-11-0140.
The batteries I have still hold a charge but for only about ten minutes so
I can't really do much with it. It ok to put in a few screws or something
but that's about it. Thanks
Ed

rE

in reply to "Thomas" on 06/05/2004 4:54 PM

08/05/2004 5:49 PM

Thanks I'll look around for one of the 1.7s that should be more than enough
for what I do anymore.
ed


"P©WÉ®T©©LMAN ²ºº4" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "Ed S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > "P©WÉ®T©©LMAN ²ºº4"
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> > > "Ed S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > I have an
> > > > perfectly
> > > > good Milwaukee drill that I can't get a battery for. It's like
> > > > 15-18yrs. old.
> > > > Is there a source for them anywhere?
> > > > Ed
> > >
> > > What model # is the drill?
> > > do you have your old battery, if so what is the part # on it?
> 48-11-????
> >
> > It's a 12 volt drill model# 0401-1 and the battery has the # 48-11-0140.
> > The batteries I have still hold a charge but for only about ten minutes so
> > I can't really do much with it. It ok to put in a few screws or something
> > but that's about it. Thanks
> > Ed
>
> You will probably have to use the 48-11-0200 1.7Ah Super tough version of
> that battery unless you settle for old stock it's still the same format just
> a better battery when it first replaced the 1.4Ah 0140 it was only about $10
> more. There is also a more recent 48-11-0250 2Ah Super tough II for about
> another $10 more & even a 2.5Ah fat pack for quite a bit more.
>
> I use the 0200's daily with mine & am seeing much improved performance, I
> also replaced my worn motor & upgraded the chuck to a 1/2" keyless (3/8
> spindle) chuck.
>
> I have 5 batteries ( three over 5 years old 0140's still going & good for
> light power tool housing assembly in the shop) (one 0200 about two years old
> good for medium drilling & screwing) & (one new 0200 that I use for really
> extreme demands) the drill has been used 1-2hrs a day five days a week for
> five or six years in our service dept, the upgraded motor & larger chuck &
> new Super tough battery was well worth doing. The drill has paid for it's
> self ten times over.

md

"mttt"

in reply to "Thomas" on 06/05/2004 4:54 PM

07/05/2004 3:33 PM


"Thomas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Question:
> When recharging the battery should I remove the battery from the charger
> when its done? Or can I simply leave it in there for a long time. I may
> not have to use the battery for weeks etc.
>

Think it will depend on the sophistication of the charger. For my Craftsmans
drills, the answer would have been "No, remove it." When those died and I
switch to Milwaukee - the answer is "Yes, go ahead and leave it in the
charger."

Tt

"Thomas"

in reply to "Thomas" on 06/05/2004 4:54 PM

10/05/2004 4:29 PM

Just my luck! :)

Does it rate the Ryobi 18V drill?


"Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The current issue of Consumer Reports rates cordless drills, but Delta
> is not included in the lineup.

b

in reply to "Thomas" on 06/05/2004 4:54 PM

06/05/2004 9:12 PM

On Thu, 6 May 2004 22:55:05 -0500, "DanG" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Delta is on the auction block. The parent company is going to
>shed it and go with water pumps. One of the major lookers at the
>PorterCable, Delta, Rockwell line is Ryobi.

funny. wasn't delta a water meter manufacturer before they made tools?

full circle....

Dd

"DanG"

in reply to "Thomas" on 06/05/2004 4:54 PM

06/05/2004 10:55 PM


Delta is on the auction block. The parent company is going to
shed it and go with water pumps. One of the major lookers at the
PorterCable, Delta, Rockwell line is Ryobi.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Keep the whole world singing. . . .
DanG


"Thomas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
>
> I am looking to purchace some cordless tools in the very near
future. At
> present I do not have any tools at all except for a few basic
manual tools.
> :) Seeing that I will barely use the tools compared to most of
you lads I
> figure the best way to get started would be to purchase a small
combo kit.
> The two kits that are in my small budget are one from Ryobi and
one from
> Delta.
>
> DELTA
> http://www.deltawoodworking.com/index.asp?e=136&p=4875
>
> RYOBI (NOT OFFICIAL WEBPAGE)
> http://www.cumminstools.com/browse.cfm/4,1142.html
>
>
> I am leaning towards the Delta simply because I do not need a
flashlight and
> vacum. :) But I have no idea of the quality of Delta tools.
>
> Any opinions or suggestions would be great!
>
> Thanks in advanced.
>
> Cheers!
>
>

MJ

"Mark Jerde"

in reply to "Thomas" on 06/05/2004 4:54 PM

06/05/2004 9:09 PM

Thomas wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am looking to purchace some cordless tools in the very near future.

Walk by the replacement battery section as part of your decision. I didn't
do this when I bought my 13.2 v drill. I need a new battery but they're
hard to find and expensive.

$0.02

-- Mark

DV

Dan Valleskey

in reply to "Thomas" on 06/05/2004 4:54 PM

06/05/2004 11:31 PM


If you are not going to use it a lot, look at Makita, they offer
Nickel-metal hydride batteries.

Otherwise- delta.

-Dan V.


On Thu, 6 May 2004 16:54:11 -0400, "Thomas"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I am looking to purchace some cordless tools in the very near future. At
>present I do not have any tools at all except for a few basic manual tools.
>:) Seeing that I will barely use the tools compared to most of you lads I
>figure the best way to get started would be to purchase a small combo kit.
>The two kits that are in my small budget are one from Ryobi and one from
>Delta.
>
>DELTA
>http://www.deltawoodworking.com/index.asp?e=136&p=4875
>
>RYOBI (NOT OFFICIAL WEBPAGE)
>http://www.cumminstools.com/browse.cfm/4,1142.html
>
>
>I am leaning towards the Delta simply because I do not need a flashlight and
>vacum. :) But I have no idea of the quality of Delta tools.
>
>Any opinions or suggestions would be great!
>
>Thanks in advanced.
>
>Cheers!
>

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "Thomas" on 06/05/2004 4:54 PM

07/05/2004 2:55 AM



> >> I am looking to purchace some cordless tools in the very near future.
> >

I have a Ryobi 14.4 drill and saw. They get light use in a home shop. After
16 months, the variable speed drill is no longer variable and the batteries
do not hold a charge very long any more.

It is a nice size and weight, has enough power for my needs and worked well
until recently. Things do break and wear out but I think the switch could
have held up longer.
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome


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