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[email protected] (Guppas!)

28/01/2004 2:09 PM

Semi-OT, Smoke Alarms in Shops

I have a shop in my "lower level", at the other end of the house. If
a fire developed in the shop after we went to bed the chances of me
hearing the smoke alarm (the one in the shop) is about zip. It would
seem someone would make smoke alarms that triggered the other smoke
alarms in the house. It sounds good, but the only options I could
find were complete alarm systems, something I don't need/want, and
that costs lots of money.

Does anyone know of a solution?


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BRuce

in reply to [email protected] (Guppas!) on 28/01/2004 2:09 PM

29/01/2004 6:12 AM

over time the Borg smoke detectors will fail due to a build up of dust,
if you vacuum them out periodically you reduce the chance of a false
alarm. at least when they fail, you know it! ;-)

BRuce

Guppas! wrote:

> I have a shop in my "lower level", at the other end of the house. If
> a fire developed in the shop after we went to bed the chances of me
> hearing the smoke alarm (the one in the shop) is about zip. It would
> seem someone would make smoke alarms that triggered the other smoke
> alarms in the house. It sounds good, but the only options I could
> find were complete alarm systems, something I don't need/want, and
> that costs lots of money.
>
> Does anyone know of a solution?

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[email protected] (Runnonmt)

in reply to [email protected] (Guppas!) on 28/01/2004 2:09 PM

28/01/2004 10:16 PM

>Subject: Semi-OT, Smoke Alarms in Shops
>From: [email protected] (Guppas!)
>Date: 1/28/2004 4:09 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <[email protected]>
>
>I have a shop in my "lower level", at the other end of the house. If
>a fire developed in the shop after we went to bed the chances of me
>hearing the smoke alarm (the one in the shop) is about zip. It would
>seem someone would make smoke alarms that triggered the other smoke
>alarms in the house. It sounds good, but the only options I could
>find were complete alarm systems, something I don't need/want, and
>that costs lots of money.
>
>Does anyone know of a solution?
>
>
>
>
>
>

I have the type you describe in my house, they run on electric with battery
backup.

gG

[email protected] (Guppas!)

in reply to [email protected] (Guppas!) on 28/01/2004 2:09 PM

02/02/2004 9:14 AM

[email protected] (Guppas!) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I have a shop in my "lower level", at the other end of the house. If
> a fire developed in the shop after we went to bed the chances of me
> hearing the smoke alarm (the one in the shop) is about zip. It would
> seem someone would make smoke alarms that triggered the other smoke
> alarms in the house. It sounds good, but the only options I could
> find were complete alarm systems, something I don't need/want, and
> that costs lots of money.
>
> Does anyone know of a solution?

Thanks, everyone. So the solution exists, but they have to be wired
together. So much for going wireless! Thanks again.

Aw

"ATP"

in reply to [email protected] (Guppas!) on 28/01/2004 2:09 PM

29/01/2004 2:28 AM

Guppas! wrote:
> I have a shop in my "lower level", at the other end of the house. If
> a fire developed in the shop after we went to bed the chances of me
> hearing the smoke alarm (the one in the shop) is about zip. It would
> seem someone would make smoke alarms that triggered the other smoke
> alarms in the house. It sounds good, but the only options I could
> find were complete alarm systems, something I don't need/want, and
> that costs lots of money.
>
> Does anyone know of a solution?

Every AC smoke detector I've installed over the last ten+ years has a third
wire for the function you describe. A dusty area like a shop may need a heat
detector instead of a smoke detector, to prevent false alarms.

VR

Victor Radin

in reply to [email protected] (Guppas!) on 28/01/2004 2:09 PM

29/01/2004 12:05 AM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> "Guppas!" wrote in message
> > I have a shop in my "lower level", at the other end of the house. If
> > a fire developed in the shop after we went to bed the chances of me
> > hearing the smoke alarm (the one in the shop) is about zip. It would
> > seem someone would make smoke alarms that triggered the other smoke
> > alarms in the house. It sounds good, but the only options I could
> > find were complete alarm systems, something I don't need/want, and
> > that costs lots of money.
> >
> > Does anyone know of a solution?
>
> I've got'em in my house ... and not part of an alarm system. One goes off,
> they all go off. They are, obviously, connected by a wire, which should not
> pose too much of a problem for a DIY'er.
>
> BTW, they are now "code" for new construction in this locality, so I am
> certain they are available commercially.

Check also for "remote notify" sensors. The sensing unit uses a low-
level transmitter (like a baby monitor) to send a trigger signal to the
remote alarm. Great for outbuilding shops, garden sheds, or detached
garages. IIRC, these can be had for smoke, heat, and carbon monoxide.

Probably not easily available at the local BORG, but a decent alarm
company or locksmith/alarm shop may be able to order them for you if
they don't have it as a regular stock item.

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to [email protected] (Guppas!) on 28/01/2004 2:09 PM

28/01/2004 4:27 PM

"Guppas!" wrote in message
> I have a shop in my "lower level", at the other end of the house. If
> a fire developed in the shop after we went to bed the chances of me
> hearing the smoke alarm (the one in the shop) is about zip. It would
> seem someone would make smoke alarms that triggered the other smoke
> alarms in the house. It sounds good, but the only options I could
> find were complete alarm systems, something I don't need/want, and
> that costs lots of money.
>
> Does anyone know of a solution?

I've got'em in my house ... and not part of an alarm system. One goes off,
they all go off. They are, obviously, connected by a wire, which should not
pose too much of a problem for a DIY'er.

BTW, they are now "code" for new construction in this locality, so I am
certain they are available commercially.


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bG

in reply to [email protected] (Guppas!) on 28/01/2004 2:09 PM

31/01/2004 3:08 PM

You can get interconnectable battery powered and manins powered
smoke/heat alarms ie one sensing smoke will trigger all those connected.

BRuce <BRuce> wrote in message news:<1075374916.155694@sj-nntpcache-3>...
> over time the Borg smoke detectors will fail due to a build up of dust,
> if you vacuum them out periodically you reduce the chance of a false
> alarm. at least when they fail, you know it! ;-)
>
> BRuce
>
> Guppas! wrote:
>
> > I have a shop in my "lower level", at the other end of the house. If
> > a fire developed in the shop after we went to bed the chances of me
> > hearing the smoke alarm (the one in the shop) is about zip. It would
> > seem someone would make smoke alarms that triggered the other smoke
> > alarms in the house. It sounds good, but the only options I could
> > find were complete alarm systems, something I don't need/want, and
> > that costs lots of money.
> >
> > Does anyone know of a solution?

Ba

B a r r y B u r k e J r .

in reply to [email protected] (Guppas!) on 28/01/2004 2:09 PM

28/01/2004 11:35 PM

On 28 Jan 2004 14:09:53 -0800, [email protected] (Guppas!) wrote:

>I have a shop in my "lower level", at the other end of the house. If
>a fire developed in the shop after we went to bed the chances of me
>hearing the smoke alarm (the one in the shop) is about zip. It would
>seem someone would make smoke alarms that triggered the other smoke
>alarms in the house.

They do, and I believe they are required by current code. They're
about $10 at any home center. Mine are AC/DC and use a 3rd trigger
wire.

I have four of them in my home. It drives my wife nuts if I set one
off in the shop, and the detector outside the bedroom goes off.

Barry

Le

LP

in reply to [email protected] (Guppas!) on 28/01/2004 2:09 PM

28/01/2004 7:26 PM

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:27:34 -0600, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:

>"Guppas!" wrote in message
>> I have a shop in my "lower level", at the other end of the house. If
>> a fire developed in the shop after we went to bed the chances of me
>> hearing the smoke alarm (the one in the shop) is about zip. It would
>> seem someone would make smoke alarms that triggered the other smoke
>> alarms in the house. It sounds good, but the only options I could
>> find were complete alarm systems, something I don't need/want, and
>> that costs lots of money.
>>
>> Does anyone know of a solution?
>
>I've got'em in my house ... and not part of an alarm system. One goes off,
>they all go off. They are, obviously, connected by a wire, which should not
>pose too much of a problem for a DIY'er.
>
>BTW, they are now "code" for new construction in this locality, so I am
>certain they are available commercially.

Do you have any idea how far apart these can be? I'd kinda like to
have one in my shop which would also set off the one in the house but
the wiring would probably extend to about 120feet.

TF

"Tbone"

in reply to [email protected] (Guppas!) on 28/01/2004 2:09 PM

28/01/2004 9:39 PM

You can get them in the HD or Lowes. They require a trigger wire that
connects them all together.

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"Guppas!" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have a shop in my "lower level", at the other end of the house. If
> a fire developed in the shop after we went to bed the chances of me
> hearing the smoke alarm (the one in the shop) is about zip. It would
> seem someone would make smoke alarms that triggered the other smoke
> alarms in the house. It sounds good, but the only options I could
> find were complete alarm systems, something I don't need/want, and
> that costs lots of money.
>
> Does anyone know of a solution?


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