Once it's had a few cycles, it's not bad, just worse than the common cabinet
woods. Trouble comes in the growth habit of the tree, which produces grain
reversals. Elm is notoriously difficult to split for this reason, but for
the same reason it's less predictable in movement in response to moisture
change.
Buy the wood, or sell it. It's pretty, durable, and certainly useable with
good solid wood technique.
"Larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It's not my wood. I'm asking for a friend of my wife. Her father had
> a ton of the wood stored in his barn in Ohio. He is now in a nursing
> home and they are trying to get the property cleared up & ready for
> sale. They don't know if it's worth trying to sell the wood or to
> just toss it.
Thu, Apr 22, 2004, 8:02am george@least (George) says:
Once it's had a few cycles, it's not bad, just worse than the common
cabinet woods. Trouble comes in the growth habit of the tree, which
produces grain reversals. Elm is notoriously difficult to split for this
reason, but for the same reason it's less predictable in movement in
response to moisture change.
Buy the wood, or sell it. It's pretty, durable, and certainly useable
with good solid wood technique.
Yes, but you are saying "elm" and he is saying "yellow elm". I
took a quick look, and the only reference I found to "yellow elm" was a
couple of antique Chinese stools, and the wood was named as yellow elm.
So, maybe he is actually alking about elm, and possibly something else.
JOAT
The Good are Innocent so they invented Justice. The Evil are Guilty so
they invented Mercy.
- Unknown
You can only answer with what you know, unless, of course you're special, as
you are.
Elms are remarkably similar regardless of origin, and a quantity of lumber
is less likely to be from an exotic than an indigenous.
"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Yes, but you are saying "elm" and he is saying "yellow elm". I
> took a quick look, and the only reference I found to "yellow elm" was a
> couple of antique Chinese stools, and the wood was named as yellow elm.
> So, maybe he is actually alking about elm, and possibly something else.
George responds:
>You can only answer with what you know, unless, of course you're special, as
>you are.
>
>Elms are remarkably similar regardless of origin, and a quantity of lumber
>is less likely to be from an exotic than an indigenous.
Your last statement seems likely, but the only yellow elm I can locate, and
that's not firm, is Mongolian yellow elm. No details whatsoever.
Hackberry is sometimes marketing with elm, and is sometimes called bastard elm.
The wood is a yellowish gray going to a pale brown with yellow streaks, so it
sounds like it might fit.
Charlie Self
"Property is not the sacred right. When a rich man becomes poor it is a
misfortune, it is not a moral evil. When a poor man becomes destitute, it is a
moral evil, teeming with consequences and injurious to society and morality."
Lord Acton
Lemme see. I shouldn't respond because elm generic doesn't match the
species of some exotic, and you then go to hackberry, which isn't in the
same genus?
Oh well, at least hackberry is more likely to produce "tons" of wood in Ohio
than some exotic.
Of course, it could really be elm, in which case it probably grows in the
characteristic way, producing wood with the characteristics I mentioned,
couldn't it?
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:20040422171814Don't respond at all unless > George responds:
>
> >You can only answer with what you know, unless, of course you're special,
as
> >you are.
> >
> >Elms are remarkably similar regardless of origin, and a quantity of
lumber
> >is less likely to be from an exotic than an indigenous.
>
> Your last statement seems likely, but the only yellow elm I can locate,
and
> that's not firm, is Mongolian yellow elm. No details whatsoever.
>
George responds:
>Lemme see. I shouldn't respond because elm generic doesn't match the
>species of some exotic, and you then go to hackberry, which isn't in the
>same genus?
>
>Oh well, at least hackberry is more likely to produce "tons" of wood in Ohio
>than some exotic.
>
>Of course, it could really be elm, in which case it probably grows in the
>characteristic way, producing wood with the characteristics I mentioned,
>couldn't it?
You sure got your knickers in a twist over something I didn't say. You post
what you want, eh?
As an incidental, hackberry is in the family Ulmaceae, the--guess what!--elm
family, if not genus. Even knicknamed bastard elm.
I dunno what's twisting your shorts, but you need to check it out before it
causes a rash.
Charlie Self
"A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial appearance
of being right." Thomas Paine
"Your last statement seems likely, but the only yellow elm I can locate, and
that's not firm, is Mongolian yellow elm. No details whatsoever."
Such faint praise seems a bit damning. Guess it's my fault for seizing upon
the word "elm" in the original post and running with it, while you cleverly
seized on the word "yellow." That's why you're a wordsmith, I guess.
Notice how carefully I worded my response so as not to mislead. I even used
the word "genus." Perhaps you're right, the real key to understanding your
posting is the word "bastard."
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> George responds:
>
> >Lemme see. I shouldn't respond because elm generic doesn't match the
> >species of some exotic, and you then go to hackberry, which isn't in the
> >same genus?
> >
> >Oh well, at least hackberry is more likely to produce "tons" of wood in
Ohio
> >than some exotic.
> You sure got your knickers in a twist over something I didn't say. You
post
> what you want, eh?
>
> As an incidental, hackberry is in the family Ulmaceae, the--guess
what!--elm
> family, if not genus. Even knicknamed bastard elm.
>
From: George <george@least>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 2:02 PM
> Buy the wood, or sell it. It's pretty, durable, and certainly useable
with good solid wood technique.
+ + +
One thing elm is not is durable. Strong yes. Durable no.
Some great-looking and serviceable furniture has been made from elm
+ + +
Charlie Self <[email protected]> schreef
> As an incidental, hackberry is in the family Ulmaceae, the--guess
what!--elm family, if not genus. Even knicknamed bastard elm.
+ + +
Latest thing is to move it to its own family, Celtidaceae.
Most everybody is embarrassed about this, but it appears inevitable.
PvR
Cladistics....
"P van Rijckevorsel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Charlie Self <[email protected]> schreef
> > As an incidental, hackberry is in the family Ulmaceae, the--guess
> what!--elm family, if not genus. Even knicknamed bastard elm.
>
> + + +
> Latest thing is to move it to its own family, Celtidaceae.
> Most everybody is embarrassed about this, but it appears inevitable.
> PvR
>
>
>
>
In article <[email protected]>,
Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
>Asking this for a friend of my wife. Has anyone ever heard of "yellow
>elm" (from Ohio)? If so, what would 1" rough cut (very) air dried
>boards be good for? Thanks for any help you can give!
I've only used elm once and I'm not sure if it was "yellow" or not.
It looks somewhat like ash or oak and has a light brown cast. The
problem I had is it warped like crazy. I don't believe it was a drying
defect because I got it from a guy I've bought a couple thousand bf from
over the years with good luck.
I suspect it warped because it was flatsawn. I've since talked to a guy
who uses a lot of elm in 18th century reproduction work and he said
he'll only use quartersawn elm for this reason.
--
Scott Post [email protected] http://home.insightbb.com/~sepost/
If you like the wood, then that 1in rough lumber can be used like any
other rough lumber, run it thru the jointer, then the planner and
build whatever you want with it
John
On 21 Apr 2004 05:13:54 -0700, [email protected] (Larry) wrote:
>Asking this for a friend of my wife. Has anyone ever heard of "yellow
>elm" (from Ohio)? If so, what would 1" rough cut (very) air dried
>boards be good for? Thanks for any help you can give!