wH

[email protected] (Hylourgos)

25/01/2004 12:05 PM

Update: chemical for electrolysis rust removal

In a recent post I mentioned some other sources for chemicals and
chemical analysis for electrolysis rust removal--in the event that
others, like myself, had a hard time finding "washing soda".

The other day I bought a 2 lb canister of 100% sodium carbonate for $3
and change at Lowes. Look in the pool section (the one I checked had
it in the covered outdoor section) for Spa-Kem pH Plus.

Regards,
H


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wH

[email protected] (Hylourgos)

in reply to [email protected] (Hylourgos) on 25/01/2004 12:05 PM

26/01/2004 11:09 AM

Han,

I have no idea what your point is. If you mean that the Na2CO-3 is the
same in both, it isn't. Arm & Hammer washing soda contains other
ingredients. It's got one of the highest concentrations of Na2CO-3,
which makes it ideal for electrolysis, but it's also got
detergents--which may or may not be helpful in electrolysis. They
probably don't affect it much either way since many have used it
happily.

But the pool additive is pure Na2CO-3, and it's cheap, AND (the point
of my post) it is more readily available.

Availability, Han, that's the issue I was trying to cover.

See my earlier post at:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=5bc4c82c.0311260551.4112ed22%40posting.google.com&rnum=2&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dinsubject:electrolysis%2Bauthor:hylourgos%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26scoring%3Dd%26selm%3D5bc4c82c.0311260551.4112ed22%2540posting.google.com%26rnum%3D2

Also, I just ran across a site detailing how to make (fairly pure)
Na2CO-3 from Baking Soda (Sodium *Bi*carbonate) at:

http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=005yRH


Regards,
H

Han <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> [email protected] (Hylourgos) wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > had a hard time finding "washing soda".
> >
> > The other day I bought a 2 lb canister of 100% sodium carbonate for $3
> > and change at Lowes.
>
> Same difference as between 6 and half a dozen.

wH

[email protected] (Hylourgos)

in reply to [email protected] (Hylourgos) on 25/01/2004 12:05 PM

30/01/2004 9:21 PM

Han <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
<snip>
> I'm sorry, if I irked you. My only point was that Na2CO-3 is Na2CO-3,
> whatever you call it. Whether or not the detergents in A&H would help, I
> can't tell for sure. My guess is that they would help a little, but I
> have no experience whatsoever trying any of this myself.

Not at all--your short post was just enigmatic, and I didn't
understand what you were getting at.

I, and many others, have done electryolysis with plain old Arm&Hammer
Sodium BI-Carbonate, and it seems to work OK. From what I've read and
from what little experience I've had (haven't actually tested them
side-by-side) though, Sodium Carbonate is more effective, the purer
the better. So...I'd always been in search of a cheap and easy source.
When I found it, I wanted to share it.

But I completely understand if someone has tried regular Baking Soda,
it worked for them and they have no desire to try anything else to see
if it works better.

Regards,
H

Hn

Han

in reply to [email protected] (Hylourgos) on 25/01/2004 12:05 PM

25/01/2004 8:07 PM

[email protected] (Hylourgos) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> had a hard time finding "washing soda".
>
> The other day I bought a 2 lb canister of 100% sodium carbonate for $3
> and change at Lowes.

Same difference as between 6 and half a dozen.

--
Best regards
Han
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Hn

Han

in reply to [email protected] (Hylourgos) on 25/01/2004 12:05 PM

28/01/2004 4:13 PM

[email protected] (Hylourgos) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Han,
>
> I have no idea what your point is. If you mean that the Na2CO-3 is the
> same in both, it isn't. Arm & Hammer washing soda contains other
> ingredients. It's got one of the highest concentrations of Na2CO-3,
> which makes it ideal for electrolysis, but it's also got
> detergents--which may or may not be helpful in electrolysis. They
> probably don't affect it much either way since many have used it
> happily.
>
> But the pool additive is pure Na2CO-3, and it's cheap, AND (the point
> of my post) it is more readily available.
>
> Availability, Han, that's the issue I was trying to cover.
>
> See my earlier post at:
> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=5bc4c82c.031
> 1260551.4112ed22%40posting.google.com&rnum=2&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dinsubje
> ct:electrolysis%2Bauthor:hylourgos%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26sco
> ring%3Dd%26selm%3D5bc4c82c.0311260551.4112ed22%2540posting.google.com%2
> 6rnum%3D2
>
> Also, I just ran across a site detailing how to make (fairly pure)
> Na2CO-3 from Baking Soda (Sodium *Bi*carbonate) at:
>
> http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=005yRH
>
>
> Regards,
> H

I'm sorry, if I irked you. My only point was that Na2CO-3 is Na2CO-3,
whatever you call it. Whether or not the detergents in A&H would help, I
can't tell for sure. My guess is that they would help a little, but I
have no experience whatsoever trying any of this myself.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid


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