I have built some kitchen cabinets with maple face frames and birch
plywood. I am trying to finish the plywood so that it looks light in
color very similar to what it looks like with out anything on it. So
far I have used poly oil based, brushing lacquer, and have tried a
sanding sealer with both. The plywood has gotten darker with each
product. Can anyone tell me how to protect the plywood but not darken
it? Will a water based poly work for this application?
On Aug 26, 7:24 pm, B A R R Y <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 15:58:20 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
> > Will a water based poly work for this application?
>
> Water based products are great with birch when no color is desired.
>
> Try a scrap panel with a good quality water based varnish available
> near you. Follow the directions on the can for the specific product
> you choose, including a light sanding after the first coat. Water
> raises the grain of wood, so a sanding (maybe 220 grit) after the
> first coat of water based product is very necessary after the first
> coat, if a sanding sealer is not used.
>
> Not all water based products are created equal, so if you don't like
> one, try another. Some have come a long way, some still aren't very
> good. Here's a very recent comparison:
> <http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworking/pages/fw_187_046.asp>
>
> Don't put it on the actual parts until you have a good handle on
> application, and are happy with the results.
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> **http://www.bburke.com/woodworking.html **
> ---------------------------------------------
Thanks for the info Barry. I'll give it a try.
On Aug 27, 1:58 pm, "Frank Drackman" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> >I have built some kitchen cabinets with maple face frames and birch
> > plywood. I am trying to finish the plywood so that it looks light in
> > color very similar to what it looks like with out anything on it. So
> > far I have used poly oil based, brushing lacquer, and have tried a
> > sanding sealer with both. The plywood has gotten darker with each
> > product. Can anyone tell me how to protect the plywood but not darken
> > it? Will a water based poly work for this application?
>
> I have the best luck with blonde shellac.
Thanks to all that replied. I'll reply with the results.
On Aug 27, 7:48 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> On Aug 27, 1:58 pm, "Frank Drackman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> >news:[email protected]...
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> > >I have built some kitchen cabinets with maple face frames and birch
> > > plywood. I am trying to finish the plywood so that it looks light in
> > > color very similar to what it looks like with out anything on it. So
> > > far I have used poly oil based, brushing lacquer, and have tried a
> > > sanding sealer with both. The plywood has gotten darker with each
> > > product. Can anyone tell me how to protect the plywood but not darken
> > > it? Will a water based poly work for this application?
>
> > I have the best luck with blonde shellac.
>
> Thanks to all that replied. I'll reply with the results.
The water-based poly worked great. That is just what I was hoping
for. I used oil based poly on the face frames because I like the
amber tone it gives. I stained the face frames first with the
smallest bit of olympic colonial maple. I rub it on and off quickly
as not to make the wood too dark. My cabinet project is coming out
pretty nice.
Again, thanks to all of you that helped.
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 15:58:20 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
> Will a water based poly work for this application?
Water based products are great with birch when no color is desired.
Try a scrap panel with a good quality water based varnish available
near you. Follow the directions on the can for the specific product
you choose, including a light sanding after the first coat. Water
raises the grain of wood, so a sanding (maybe 220 grit) after the
first coat of water based product is very necessary after the first
coat, if a sanding sealer is not used.
Not all water based products are created equal, so if you don't like
one, try another. Some have come a long way, some still aren't very
good. Here's a very recent comparison:
<http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworking/pages/fw_187_046.asp>
Don't put it on the actual parts until you have a good handle on
application, and are happy with the results.
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** http://www.bburke.com/woodworking.html **
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>I have built some kitchen cabinets with maple face frames and birch
> plywood. I am trying to finish the plywood so that it looks light in
> color very similar to what it looks like with out anything on it. So
> far I have used poly oil based, brushing lacquer, and have tried a
> sanding sealer with both. The plywood has gotten darker with each
> product. Can anyone tell me how to protect the plywood but not darken
> it? Will a water based poly work for this application?
>
I have the best luck with blonde shellac.
[email protected] wrote in news:1188173426.669252.64620
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> On Aug 26, 7:24 pm, B A R R Y <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 15:58:20 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>> > Will a water based poly work for this application?
>>
>> Water based products are great with birch when no color is desired.
>>
>> Try a scrap panel with a good quality water based varnish available
>> near you. Follow the directions on the can for the specific product
>> you choose, including a light sanding after the first coat. Water
>> raises the grain of wood, so a sanding (maybe 220 grit) after the
>> first coat of water based product is very necessary after the first
>> coat, if a sanding sealer is not used.
>>
>> Not all water based products are created equal, so if you don't like
>> one, try another. Some have come a long way, some still aren't very
>> good. Here's a very recent comparison:
>> <http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworking/pages/fw_187_046.asp>
>>
>> Don't put it on the actual parts until you have a good handle on
>> application, and are happy with the results.
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------
>> **http://www.bburke.com/woodworking.html **
>> ---------------------------------------------
>
> Thanks for the info Barry. I'll give it a try.
>
>
And next time you have a go at this type of cabinet, check with your
plywood folks to see if they have prefinished birch or maple for you to
buy. A LOT easier to use, saves a bunch of time and not that much more
$$$.
Patriarch
The waterbased stuff is great for what you want. I like to use exterior
clear acrylic for cabinets and for the interior of the vintage travel
trailers we restore.
www.vintagetrailersforsale.com
Craig
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I have built some kitchen cabinets with maple face frames and birch
> plywood. I am trying to finish the plywood so that it looks light in
> color very similar to what it looks like with out anything on it. So
> far I have used poly oil based, brushing lacquer, and have tried a
> sanding sealer with both. The plywood has gotten darker with each
> product. Can anyone tell me how to protect the plywood but not darken
> it? Will a water based poly work for this application?
>