On Nov 12, 4:57 pm, Smaug Ichorfang <[email protected]> wrote:
> Raven <[email protected]> wrote in news:1194853356.958362.110250
> @y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
>
> > I just found this site -http://tinyurl.com/26cbh9. And seems that
> > their products are pretty cool. I really love collecting scale model
> > airplanes since I was child. And I'm planning to purchase 2 custom
> > made model airplanes for me and my wife. Have you ever tried
> > collecting this kind of scale models?
>
> While those are neat, I prefer building my own models. I spent a lot of my
> youth cutting out balsa patterns (no die cut parts back then!), and glueing
> then papering the airframe. Some of them even flew! A smaller number even
> flew twice! I guess it was just the times I grew up in, but model rockets
> took over my interest. I still enjoy building them today, and with the
> wealth of scale data and pictures available, building and launching them is
> a challenge. It may seem off-topic, but there's a lot of woodworking that
> goes into a model, especially if you're designing and building a scale
> model that YOU make, not from a kit. Nose cones and other pieces need to
> be turned to exacting specifications, fins and such need to be cut out and
> shaped carefully (and with respect to grain direction), the whole thing has
> to be assembled, then a finish has to be applied. Finally, the whole point
> of the exercise, it has to FLY (again, at least once).
I also wanted to build my own model aircraft but I lack the skills and
experience. I wish I could build one of my own someday.
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:18:06 GMT, Smaug Ichorfang <[email protected]>
wrote:
>[email protected] (J T) wrote in news:9680-473AC803-3@storefull-
>3337.bay.webtv.net:
>
>
>> You're no Picasso then.
>> I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
>> them.
>> - Picasso
>>
>Can you imagine how an airplane designed by Picasso would look?
F-117
> Or
>Salvidor Dali?
B-2
> I don't know how a plane with both wings on the same side
>would fly, or one that was half-melted!
The F-4 proved that with enough horse power anything can fly.
Mark
(sixoneeight) = 618
Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 5:00am (EST+5) [email protected] (Raven) doth
mumble:
I also wanted to build my own model aircraft but I lack the skills and
experience. I wish I could build one of my own someday.
You're no Picasso then.
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso
JOAT
Viet Nam. Divorce. Cancer. Been there, done that, got over it. Now
where the Hell are my T-shirts?
- JOAT
[email protected] (J T) wrote in news:9680-473AC803-3@storefull-
3337.bay.webtv.net:
> You're no Picasso then.
> I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
> them.
> - Picasso
>
Can you imagine how an airplane designed by Picasso would look? Or
Salvidor Dali? I don't know how a plane with both wings on the same side
would fly, or one that was half-melted!
Smaug Ichorfang wrote:
> [email protected] (J T) wrote in
> news:9680-473AC803-3@storefull- 3337.bay.webtv.net:
>
>
>> You're no Picasso then.
>> I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
>> them.
>> - Picasso
>>
> Can you imagine how an airplane designed by Picasso would look? Or
> Salvidor Dali? I don't know how a plane with both wings on the same
> side would fly, or one that was half-melted!
You might be surprised--both were classically trained and I understand
that either was capable of near-photorealistic portraits if he needed
to do them.
--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
"Smaug Ichorfang"wrote:
> While those are neat, I prefer building my own models. I spent a lot of
> my
> youth cutting out balsa patterns (no die cut parts back then!), and
> glueing
> then papering the airframe. Some of them even flew!
Ever build any fuel powered U-Control or FreeFlight stuff?
Unless you had an accident, they would fly more than once.<Grin>
Lew
"Larry Blanchard" wrote:
> Many decades ago, there was an indoor model airplane driven by fly
power.
> The wings were covered by some sort of thin film. You poured the
film on
> top of a basin of water and put the wing frame underneath and lifted
out
> the wing complete with film. Then you caught a couple of horseflies
and
> put them in the refrigerator. When they were quiet you glued one to
each
> wing by their legs. Instant powered models :-)
The alternate was rubber band power with a low RPM prop.
Problem was you needed a big building to fly them.
Probably where the song lyric " on gossemer wings" came from.
Lew
.
Raven <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> I also wanted to build my own model aircraft but I lack the skills and
> experience. I wish I could build one of my own someday.
Try it once, you might find you've got a certain aptitude for it. At the
very least, you'll hopefully learn what makes a plane fly and be able to
use that knowledge later.
Speaking of planes... If you have a pair of plain planes propelled across
parallel planes, can they ever crash in to each other?
Puckdropper
--
Wise is the man who attempts to answer his question before asking it.
To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm
Raven <[email protected]> wrote in news:1194853356.958362.110250
@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
> I just found this site - http://tinyurl.com/26cbh9. And seems that
> their products are pretty cool. I really love collecting scale model
> airplanes since I was child. And I'm planning to purchase 2 custom
> made model airplanes for me and my wife. Have you ever tried
> collecting this kind of scale models?
>
>
While those are neat, I prefer building my own models. I spent a lot of my
youth cutting out balsa patterns (no die cut parts back then!), and glueing
then papering the airframe. Some of them even flew! A smaller number even
flew twice! I guess it was just the times I grew up in, but model rockets
took over my interest. I still enjoy building them today, and with the
wealth of scale data and pictures available, building and launching them is
a challenge. It may seem off-topic, but there's a lot of woodworking that
goes into a model, especially if you're designing and building a scale
model that YOU make, not from a kit. Nose cones and other pieces need to
be turned to exacting specifications, fins and such need to be cut out and
shaped carefully (and with respect to grain direction), the whole thing has
to be assembled, then a finish has to be applied. Finally, the whole point
of the exercise, it has to FLY (again, at least once).
Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 8:57am (EST+5) [email protected] (Smaug=A0Ichorfang) doth
sayeth:
<snip> I spent a lot of my youth cutting out balsa patterns (no die cut
parts back then!), <snip>
I recall reading an article about when e model plane hobby first
hit Roosha. Some enterprising entramanures printed the plane parts
patterns on pine, or the equivalent. It was about 1/4" thick. Lot of
sawing with a coping saw, probably a bit of thinning too. I guess it
made for a very sturdy, and somewhat heavy model, but they did fly - and
that was the bottom line. Don't recall where the engines came from,
they were all about .049s, if I recall that right. I guess thaty've
advance past pine patterns now. Never was that big on flying moel
airplanes. Later had a gas powered model VW Beetel I put a RC in. Not
very fast but a hoot to play with.
JOAT
Viet Nam. Divorce. Cancer. Been there, done that, got over it. Now
where the Hell are my T-shirts?
- JOAT
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> "Smaug Ichorfang"wrote:
>
>> While those are neat, I prefer building my own models. I spent a lot
>> of my
>> youth cutting out balsa patterns (no die cut parts back then!), and
>> glueing
>> then papering the airframe. Some of them even flew!
>
> Ever build any fuel powered U-Control or FreeFlight stuff?
>
> Unless you had an accident, they would fly more than once.<Grin>
>
I've built a few (not many) control-line planes. There was a trend way
back when, to build speed racer planes. I had a lot of friends that built
these.
God must have really loved my free flight planes, he kep so many of them
(grin). And my rockets either got stuck in a cloud or He's kept some of
them too.
Raven <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I also wanted to build my own model aircraft but I lack the skills and
> experience. I wish I could build one of my own someday.
>
Things are a lot easier now. If you just want something to fly, you can
make a plane from plastic drain pipe (the square kind) and some corrugated
plastic sign material*. If you ant to build a scale model, parts are now
die or laser cut so all you have to do is poke the pieces out of the backer
sheet and glue them together. Skills and experience are what you get from
trying to do things. Sometimes you mess up and fail. You figure out what
you did wrong and learn how not to do that, or even better, you learn how
to *correct* when you mess up. But ya gotta get out there and TRY!
google for SPAD - Simple Plastic Airplane Design
Larry Blanchard <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Many decades ago, there was an indoor model airplane driven by fly
> power. The wings were covered by some sort of thin film. You poured
> the film on top of a basin of water and put the wing frame underneath
> and lifted out the wing complete with film. Then you caught a couple
> of horseflies and put them in the refrigerator. When they were quiet
> you glued one to each wing by their legs. Instant powered models :-).
I don't know about the power source, but this construction method is called
"microfilming". The film is a form of shellac. The ones I've seen were
powered by rubber bands. There are also gliders made this way. They can
only be flown indoors because they are too fragile and a moderate breeze
would tear them apart.
On Nov 13, 1:30 pm, Puckdropper <[email protected]> wrote:
> Raven <[email protected]> wrote innews:[email protected]:
>
>
>
> > I also wanted to build my own model aircraft but I lack the skills and
> > experience. I wish I could build one of my own someday.
>
> Try it once, you might find you've got a certain aptitude for it. At the
> very least, you'll hopefully learn what makes a plane fly and be able to
> use that knowledge later.
>
> Speaking of planes... If you have a pair of plain planes propelled across
> parallel planes, can they ever crash in to each other?
>
> Puckdropper
> --
> Wise is the man who attempts to answer his question before asking it.
>
> To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm
Thank you very much.. I'll try to educate myself coz' I really want to
build my own model someday.
Smaug Ichorfang wrote:
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> "Smaug Ichorfang"wrote:
>>
>>> While those are neat, I prefer building my own models. I spent a
>>> lot of my
>>> youth cutting out balsa patterns (no die cut parts back then!),
>>> and
>>> glueing
>>> then papering the airframe. Some of them even flew!
>>
>> Ever build any fuel powered U-Control or FreeFlight stuff?
>>
>> Unless you had an accident, they would fly more than once.<Grin>
>>
> I've built a few (not many) control-line planes. There was a trend
> way back when, to build speed racer planes. I had a lot of friends
> that built these.
>
> God must have really loved my free flight planes, he kep so many of
> them (grin). And my rockets either got stuck in a cloud or He's
> kept
> some of them too.
I think it depends on where you live. The Southwest is really the
best rocket and free flight country--few trees, lots of open space.
Midwest is OK too if you can find a friendly farmer. East coast
there's just too little open space without trees and without whiny
officious jerks (we used to fly model airplanes at the schoolyard on
Saturdays and Sundays when I was a kid until the owner of the adjacent
funeral home complained that the noise was annoying the customers and
got an ordinance passed forbidding it--if he'd tried to work out an
arrangement with us where we didn't fly on days he had funerals or
something we'd likely have been glad to cooperate, but no, he just
went right to the town council and the first any of us knew about it
was Officer Topsy running us off the field).
--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
Many decades ago, there was an indoor model airplane driven by fly power.
The wings were covered by some sort of thin film. You poured the film on
top of a basin of water and put the wing frame underneath and lifted out
the wing complete with film. Then you caught a couple of horseflies and
put them in the refrigerator. When they were quiet you glued one to each
wing by their legs. Instant powered models :-).
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:15:14 GMT, Smaug Ichorfang <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Raven <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>
>> I also wanted to build my own model aircraft but I lack the skills and
>> experience. I wish I could build one of my own someday.
>>
>Things are a lot easier now. If you just want something to fly, you can
>make a plane from plastic drain pipe (the square kind) and some corrugated
>plastic sign material*.
Hey, those were my combat planes, Gremlins!
Drain pipe, Coroplast tails, and a foam wing.
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