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03/05/2004 9:19 PM

Report Charlie Self

Charlie Self, the world-famous woodworking magazine contributer once again displays
his impeccable command of the English language. Bay Area Dave was only joking,
but we seriously should draw more attention to Charlie so that the people in
his "elite" circle truly understand what a sleaze bucket he really is. While
insisting that he is "self-employed", it is clear that if the right people are
informed of his vulgar side, it will totally have an effect on his career. I
think we need to spread this around a bit so the big cheeses Charlie deals with find
out what kind of a pig he really is. Start with the people over at woodcraft, but use
your own judgement.


This topic has 26 replies

LC

"Larry C in Auburn, WA"

in reply to [email protected] on 03/05/2004 9:19 PM

03/05/2004 8:39 PM

If I only read the portion you quoted I'd say the OP is a wise man, rather
than an idiot...<g>

--
Larry C in Auburn, WA

"Tom" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Some idiot wrote:> but use
> >your own judgement.
>
>
> Someday, it'll all be over....

tT

in reply to "Larry C in Auburn, WA" on 03/05/2004 8:39 PM

04/05/2004 12:24 AM

Larry wrote:>If I only read the portion you quoted I'd say the OP is a wise
man, rather
>than an idiot...<g>
>
>--
>Larry C in Auburn, WA
>
>"Tom" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Some idiot wrote:> but use
>> >your own judgement.
>>
>>
.
>
Please forgive me for not clarifying that this was the only intelligent thing
that this idiot had written. But I still had to take it out of context to make
it _appear_ intelligent. I was trying to emphasize the wise thing to do(use
your own judgement), and should have "snipped", I suppose. Sorry. Tom
Someday, it'll all be over....

pp

philski

in reply to [email protected] on 03/05/2004 9:19 PM

04/05/2004 10:57 AM

Bay Area Dave wrote:
> I NEVER questioned his military record you M O R O N!!! Get your facts
> straight, you moron. Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron
> Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron
> Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron
> Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron
> Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron
>
> Bet you didn't use the right search criteria...
>
> You are a liar!!
>
> he has used the F word at least 4 times on various newsgroups, you
> stupid TWIT. I get so sick of people here who L I E. Not that it
> matters if it was 2 or 10 but I'm sick of your LYING, you MORON!
>
> And you call me a troll...sheesh!
>
>
> dave
>
> RKON wrote:
>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> I'd just like
>>> him to quit using the "F" word every time I happen upon his
>>> posts,
>>
>>
>>
>> You are Troll. You call people a Moron and then you have the nerve to
>> complain about somone who uses the F word.
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/groups?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=+%22charlie+self%22+group%3Arec.photo.digital+fuck
>>
>>
>> 5 results and only 1 F word out of Charlie.
>>
>> And the amount of swearing on that ng I think that is a good record.
>> Especially, from someone questioning his service record.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
Fuckin' Plonk!

Philski

tT

in reply to [email protected] on 03/05/2004 9:19 PM

03/05/2004 8:14 PM

Some idiot wrote:> but use
>your own judgement.


Someday, it'll all be over....

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to [email protected] on 03/05/2004 9:19 PM

03/05/2004 8:34 PM

[email protected] drools:

>it will totally have an effect on his career. I
>think we need to spread this around a bit so the big cheeses Charlie deals
>with find
>out what kind of a pig he really is. Start with the people over at woodcraft,
>but use
>your own judgement.

Go for it. I have had no contact with or from Woodcraft since well before
December of last year, so they'd love to hear from some troll writing about me.

Charlie Self
"An unfulfilled vocation drains the color from a man's entire existence."
Honore de Balzac

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to [email protected] on 03/05/2004 9:19 PM

06/05/2004 3:04 PM

I'm gonna tell teacher on you. You hurted my feelings. (to
quote a young woman recently seen on national TV). :)


dave


[email protected] wrote:

> Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>DUH! How about that! You DID figure out my intent. I
>>thought it might sail over you head, as low as it sits.
>
>
> Your intent is to sound and act like a whiny 6 year old?
> You sure aim high, don't you?
>
> Bill Ranck
> Blacskburg, Va.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] on 03/05/2004 9:19 PM

03/05/2004 11:06 PM

Why don't you go back into hiding.


BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to [email protected] on 03/05/2004 9:19 PM

03/05/2004 8:27 PM

as is your baiting posts. that's ALL you ever do. At least
there is variety to my posts! :)

dave

Jules wrote:

>
>
>
>
> MY on-line diatribes are'nt a reflection of my professional life.
>
> Well it's still a reflection of a part of you, isn't it, "dave".
>
>
>
>
>>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> Charlie Self, the world-famous woodworking magazine contributer once
>>> again displays his impeccable command of the English language. Bay
>>> Area Dave was only joking, but we seriously should draw more
>>> attention to Charlie so that the people in his "elite" circle truly
>>> understand what a sleaze bucket he really is. While insisting that he
>>> is "self-employed", it is clear that if the right people are informed
>>> of his vulgar side, it will totally have an effect on his career. I
>>> think we need to spread this around a bit so the big cheeses Charlie
>>> deals with find out what kind of a pig he really is. Start with the
>>> people over at woodcraft, but use your own judgement.
>>
>>
>>
>

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to [email protected] on 03/05/2004 9:19 PM

03/05/2004 7:53 PM

All right, already! I don't care if charlie is self
employed, unemployed, white, black, ex-military, pacifist,
pro-choice, anti-abortion, tee totaling, beer guzzling, gay,
hetero, bi, tall, short, fat, skinny, left brained, right
brained, no brained, healthy, sickly, handsome, ugly, bald,
bushy headed, or any other irrelevant fact; I'd just like
him to quit using the "F" word every time I happen upon his
posts, which isn't often, but when I do, there it is, and he
doesn't reserve it just for me and I was trying to make a
point about a "writer" who goes on a public forum and then
becomes an invective spewing twit who disrespects the
language that he makes all or part of his living with.
That's all. It was an OBSERVATION and a PLEA for him to
clean up his act. He should know better. I don't write for
a living. So MY on-line diatribes aren't a reflection of my
professional life. Charlie's is, by the nature of the
medium. If I was a contributor to a widely known publication
I know that I'd watch what I wrote in public. Is that so
hard to understand, people????? sigh... Me thinks some of
you worship false idols.

dave

[email protected] wrote:

> Charlie Self, the world-famous woodworking magazine contributer once again displays
> his impeccable command of the English language. Bay Area Dave was only joking,
> but we seriously should draw more attention to Charlie so that the people in
> his "elite" circle truly understand what a sleaze bucket he really is. While
> insisting that he is "self-employed", it is clear that if the right people are
> informed of his vulgar side, it will totally have an effect on his career. I
> think we need to spread this around a bit so the big cheeses Charlie deals with find
> out what kind of a pig he really is. Start with the people over at woodcraft, but use
> your own judgement.

MG

"Mike G"

in reply to [email protected] on 03/05/2004 9:19 PM

03/05/2004 4:10 PM

Got no idea what Charlie did to get you whining so but my judgment is that
anyone making a post like that without attaching a real name to it is a
poor balless example of a man.

--
Mike G.
[email protected]
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
<[email protected]> wrote in message news:1083611886_80@LocalHost...
> Charlie Self, the world-famous woodworking magazine contributer once again
displays
> his impeccable command of the English language. Bay Area Dave was only
joking,
> but we seriously should draw more attention to Charlie so that the people
in
> his "elite" circle truly understand what a sleaze bucket he really is.
While
> insisting that he is "self-employed", it is clear that if the right people
are
> informed of his vulgar side, it will totally have an effect on his career.
I
> think we need to spread this around a bit so the big cheeses Charlie deals
with find
> out what kind of a pig he really is. Start with the people over at
woodcraft, but use
> your own judgement.

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to [email protected] on 03/05/2004 9:19 PM

03/05/2004 9:06 PM

ah, another satisfied customer.

dave

Dave Hinz wrote:

> On Mon, 03 May 2004 20:41:46 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I NEVER questioned his military record you M O R O N!!! Get
>>your facts straight, you moron. Moron Moron Moron Moron
>>Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron
>>Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron
>
>
> OK, well here I started out the day optimistic. Ah well.
>
> (mumble...adjust filters...grumble...)
>

Jd

Jules

in reply to [email protected] on 03/05/2004 9:19 PM

03/05/2004 4:10 PM





MY on-line diatribes are'nt a reflection of my professional life.

Well it's still a reflection of a part of you, isn't it, "dave".




>
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Charlie Self, the world-famous woodworking magazine contributer once
>> again displays his impeccable command of the English language. Bay
>> Area Dave was only joking, but we seriously should draw more attention
>> to Charlie so that the people in his "elite" circle truly understand
>> what a sleaze bucket he really is. While insisting that he is
>> "self-employed", it is clear that if the right people are informed of
>> his vulgar side, it will totally have an effect on his career. I think
>> we need to spread this around a bit so the big cheeses Charlie deals
>> with find out what kind of a pig he really is. Start with the people
>> over at woodcraft, but use your own judgement.
>
>

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to [email protected] on 03/05/2004 9:19 PM

04/05/2004 10:11 PM

DUH! How about that! You DID figure out my intent. I
thought it might sail over you head, as low as it sits.

dave

[email protected] wrote:


>
> This latest bunch of nonsense from you sounds like
> a 6 year old saying, "Mommy! Mommy! That man said
> a *bad* word!" Grow up Dave.
acksburg, Va.

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to [email protected] on 03/05/2004 9:19 PM

03/05/2004 9:39 PM

ah, a thousand pardons in this case, you WERE directing the
comment about the other guy on the photo NG; not me. I see
what you mean. Can you see how that could go either way
without you explaining it? I have no problem admitting that
I misunderstood your intent. As explained, that's a whole
nother ball game. Kick my butt, and let's agree that I blew
it!!

(But CS HAS used the F word 4 times in it's pure form on a
variety of news groups. Not once. but let's not belabor
the point. I don't want to quote each post. then I'd just
be fueling the fire.)

dave

RKON wrote:

> Dave Dave Dave
>
> I never said you questioned his service record. I worded as follows:
>
> "5 results and only 1 F word out of Charlie.
> And the amount of swearing on that ng I think that is a good record.
> Especially, from someone questioning his service record"
>
> Whi did Chalie swear at? You? No, the guy who was questioning his service
> record.
>
> I never would have ever jumped in if you did not call me a Moron.
>
> Again, coming from you Dave I take that as compliment.
>
> Rich
>
> PS. Dave do you take High Blood Pressure Medication?
>
>
>
>
> "Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>I NEVER questioned his military record you M O R O N!!! Get
>>your facts straight, you moron. Moron Moron Moron Moron
>>Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron
>>Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron
>>Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron
>>Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron
>>Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron
>>
>>Bet you didn't use the right search criteria...
>>
>>You are a liar!!
>>
>>he has used the F word at least 4 times on various
>>newsgroups, you stupid TWIT. I get so sick of people here
>>who L I E. Not that it matters if it was 2 or 10 but I'm
>>sick of your LYING, you MORON!
>>
>>And you call me a troll...sheesh!
>>
>>
>>dave
>>
>>RKON wrote:
>>
>>
>>><snip>
>>>
>>>>I'd just like
>>>>him to quit using the "F" word every time I happen upon his
>>>>posts,
>>>
>>>
>>>You are Troll. You call people a Moron and then you have the nerve to
>>>complain about somone who uses the F word.
>>>
>>>
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=+%22charlie+self%22+group%3Arec.photo.digital+fuck
>
>>>5 results and only 1 F word out of Charlie.
>>>
>>>And the amount of swearing on that ng I think that is a good record.
>>>Especially, from someone questioning his service record.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

DH

Dave Hinz

in reply to [email protected] on 03/05/2004 9:19 PM

03/05/2004 8:49 PM

On Mon, 03 May 2004 20:41:46 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
> I NEVER questioned his military record you M O R O N!!! Get
> your facts straight, you moron. Moron Moron Moron Moron
> Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron
> Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron

OK, well here I started out the day optimistic. Ah well.

(mumble...adjust filters...grumble...)

ND

"Norman D. Crow"

in reply to [email protected] on 03/05/2004 9:19 PM

03/05/2004 5:25 PM




"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] drools:
>
> >it will totally have an effect on his career. I
> >think we need to spread this around a bit so the big cheeses Charlie
deals
> >with find
> >out what kind of a pig he really is. Start with the people over at
woodcraft,
> >but use
> >your own judgement.
>
> Go for it. I have had no contact with or from Woodcraft since well before
> December of last year, so they'd love to hear from some troll writing
about me.

What'd you do Charlie, p**s in his Wheaties?

--
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cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to "Norman D. Crow" on 03/05/2004 5:25 PM

03/05/2004 10:09 PM

Nahmie asks:

>What'd you do Charlie, p**s in his Wheaties?
>

I just might have since I have abosutely no idea who C@SH is. Or what.

Charlie Self
"An unfulfilled vocation drains the color from a man's entire existence."
Honore de Balzac

di

dave in fairfax

in reply to "Norman D. Crow" on 03/05/2004 5:25 PM

03/05/2004 11:28 PM

Charlie Self wrote:
> I just might have since I have abosutely no idea who C@SH is. Or what.

Judging from the munged header, another gutless wonder. Munging
ane-mail addy to avoid spam is one thing, hiding behind a munged
header is entirely another. The good news is that the change to
my filters seems to work, except for the reposted part of the
thread. %-( Don't let the a$$holes bother you Charlie, it's one
cost of keeping a higher profile.

Dave in Fairfax
--
reply-to doesn't work
use:
daveldr at att dot net
American Association of Woodturners
http://www.woodturner.org
Capital Area Woodturners
http://www.capwoodturners.org/

rR

in reply to "Norman D. Crow" on 03/05/2004 5:25 PM

04/05/2004 4:02 AM

[email protected] (Charlie Self) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

> I just might have since I have abosutely no idea who C@SH is. Or what.

Just another incarnation of Bay Area Dave. Dave spends his entire day
posting to newsgroups under a number of names. He knows what he's
doing.

r

in reply to [email protected] on 03/05/2004 9:19 PM

04/05/2004 8:18 PM

Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
> All right, already! I don't care if charlie is self

You clearly care about Charlie Self in some way or
you wouldn't spend so much time and effort posting
about him.

This latest bunch of nonsense from you sounds like
a 6 year old saying, "Mommy! Mommy! That man said
a *bad* word!" Grow up Dave.

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.

r

in reply to [email protected] on 03/05/2004 9:19 PM

06/05/2004 2:50 PM

Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
> DUH! How about that! You DID figure out my intent. I
> thought it might sail over you head, as low as it sits.

Your intent is to sound and act like a whiny 6 year old?
You sure aim high, don't you?

Bill Ranck
Blacskburg, Va.

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to [email protected] on 03/05/2004 9:19 PM

03/05/2004 8:41 PM

I NEVER questioned his military record you M O R O N!!! Get
your facts straight, you moron. Moron Moron Moron Moron
Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron
Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron
Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron
Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron
Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron

Bet you didn't use the right search criteria...

You are a liar!!

he has used the F word at least 4 times on various
newsgroups, you stupid TWIT. I get so sick of people here
who L I E. Not that it matters if it was 2 or 10 but I'm
sick of your LYING, you MORON!

And you call me a troll...sheesh!


dave

RKON wrote:

> <snip>
>
>>I'd just like
>>him to quit using the "F" word every time I happen upon his
>>posts,
>
>
> You are Troll. You call people a Moron and then you have the nerve to
> complain about somone who uses the F word.
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=+%22charlie+self%22+group%3Arec.photo.digital+fuck
>
> 5 results and only 1 F word out of Charlie.
>
> And the amount of swearing on that ng I think that is a good record.
> Especially, from someone questioning his service record.
>
>
>
>
>
>

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to [email protected] on 03/05/2004 9:19 PM

03/05/2004 10:01 PM

I think he's been pissing at me since I had the audacity to
ask if "hand drills" was the proper term for an article he
wrote. He finally laid blame on the editor. Ever since, he
has chimed in on other newsgroups with his little snide
remarks about me. So the love is definitely lost between
the two of us.

dave

Norman D. Crow wrote:

> "Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>[email protected] drools:
>>
>>
>>>it will totally have an effect on his career. I
>>>think we need to spread this around a bit so the big cheeses Charlie
>
> deals
>
>>>with find
>>>out what kind of a pig he really is. Start with the people over at
>
> woodcraft,
>
>>>but use
>>>your own judgement.
>>
>>Go for it. I have had no contact with or from Woodcraft since well before
>>December of last year, so they'd love to hear from some troll writing
>
> about me.
>
> What'd you do Charlie, p**s in his Wheaties?
>

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to [email protected] on 03/05/2004 9:19 PM

03/05/2004 8:05 PM

THIS is why I'm not a writer. I messed up sentence
construction big time on, "I'd just like him to quit using
the "F" word every time I happen
> upon his posts, which isn't often, blah blah."

I should have written, "Every time I happen upon one of his
posts (which isn't often due to filtering) I find him using
the F-word, and he doesn't reserve blah blah..."

Bay Area Dave wrote:

Rr

"RKON"

in reply to [email protected] on 03/05/2004 9:19 PM

03/05/2004 4:33 PM

<snip>
>I'd just like
> him to quit using the "F" word every time I happen upon his
> posts,

You are Troll. You call people a Moron and then you have the nerve to
complain about somone who uses the F word.

http://groups.google.com/groups?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=+%22charlie+self%22+group%3Arec.photo.digital+fuck

5 results and only 1 F word out of Charlie.

And the amount of swearing on that ng I think that is a good record.
Especially, from someone questioning his service record.





Rr

"RKON"

in reply to [email protected] on 03/05/2004 9:19 PM

03/05/2004 5:28 PM

Dave Dave Dave

I never said you questioned his service record. I worded as follows:

"5 results and only 1 F word out of Charlie.
And the amount of swearing on that ng I think that is a good record.
Especially, from someone questioning his service record"

Whi did Chalie swear at? You? No, the guy who was questioning his service
record.

I never would have ever jumped in if you did not call me a Moron.

Again, coming from you Dave I take that as compliment.

Rich

PS. Dave do you take High Blood Pressure Medication?




"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I NEVER questioned his military record you M O R O N!!! Get
> your facts straight, you moron. Moron Moron Moron Moron
> Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron
> Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron
> Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron
> Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron
> Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron Moron
>
> Bet you didn't use the right search criteria...
>
> You are a liar!!
>
> he has used the F word at least 4 times on various
> newsgroups, you stupid TWIT. I get so sick of people here
> who L I E. Not that it matters if it was 2 or 10 but I'm
> sick of your LYING, you MORON!
>
> And you call me a troll...sheesh!
>
>
> dave
>
> RKON wrote:
>
> > <snip>
> >
> >>I'd just like
> >>him to quit using the "F" word every time I happen upon his
> >>posts,
> >
> >
> > You are Troll. You call people a Moron and then you have the nerve to
> > complain about somone who uses the F word.
> >
> >
http://groups.google.com/groups?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=+%22charlie+self%22+group%3Arec.photo.digital+fuck
> >
> > 5 results and only 1 F word out of Charlie.
> >
> > And the amount of swearing on that ng I think that is a good record.
> > Especially, from someone questioning his service record.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>


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