Or put another way, he'll probably take credit for it....
About a month ago, Leon replied to a post and supplied a link. On that lin=
k was a farm table project: http://www.augustoakwoodworks.com/home/videos/
I've been taking care of Mom 4 days a week and, sometimes, have a little ti=
me to myself, while there. I had some salvaged cypress stashed in the back=
of the property, there, and decided to pull the nails, power wash the plan=
ks and build a similar farm table. I finished spraying it today. Just hav=
e to attach the top to the base. 9'5" long, 36" wide, 30" high. The top i=
s a full 2"+ thick and fairly heavy.
I hope the mitered corners stay intact, i.e., wood movement. I was aware o=
f this possibility, when I decided to miter the corners.
I thought spraying the bolts black was a good idea, as in the above farm ta=
ble.
A fun, neat project: https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/?
Thanks to Leon for the timely link.
Sonny
On 3/21/2016 7:31 PM, Sonny wrote:
> Or put another way, he'll probably take credit for it....
>
> About a month ago, Leon replied to a post and supplied a link. On
> that link was a farm table project:
> http://www.augustoakwoodworks.com/home/videos/
>
> I've been taking care of Mom 4 days a week and, sometimes, have a
> little time to myself, while there. I had some salvaged cypress
> stashed in the back of the property, there, and decided to pull the
> nails, power wash the planks and build a similar farm table. I
> finished spraying it today. Just have to attach the top to the base.
> 9'5" long, 36" wide, 30" high. The top is a full 2"+ thick and
> fairly heavy.
>
> I hope the mitered corners stay intact, i.e., wood movement. I was
> aware of this possibility, when I decided to miter the corners.
>
> I thought spraying the bolts black was a good idea, as in the above
> farm table.
>
> A fun, neat project: https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/?
>
> Thanks to Leon for the timely link.
>
> Sonny
>
>
Nope it was not me! ;~) IIRC
But your table looks better than the top link table.
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 2:51:54 PM UTC-5, Sonny wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 12:07:01 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > What did you use to cut the long miters on the top?
> >
>
> Thanks Robert.
>
> Though I have a 12" RAS, it was loaded with junk on it. I used a Sawbuck.
> https://www.google.com/search?q=delta+sawbuck+frame+and+trim+saw&rlz=1C1PQHA_enUS574US586&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj8u86TiNXLAhVDdz4KHWKpC4UQsAQIHA&biw=1280&bih=841
>
> It had a sharp blade, for a change, so I was confident to get a good cut. Sometimes, with a duller blade, a cut may not be as perfect as I might like, especially with this old of saw. I don't have a CMS.
>
> Sonny
Holy crap, Sonny! I haven't seen one of those in 30 years! Literally!
If you can get that accuracy out of that old "Sawbuck" (I went back and looked at those miters again, they look fine to me) then you would be absolutely dangerous with the right tool.
Makes your cypress table >>even more impressive<<, sir. I always love to see someone use the tools they have rather than to let lack of certain machinery keep them from going after it.
Honestly, if I hadn't seen so much of your other good work over the years, I would think you were pulling my leg.
Robert
On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 10:56:33 PM UTC-5, OFWW wrote:
> Sonny, I'm impressed! To me pieces like that belong in a stone castle
> somewhere.
>
> Lifting stuff like that you'll end up out living us all. :)
I'm getting the idea that you think my table is the August Oak table. It is not.
My table is the smaller cypress one, in the Flickr pics link. And it is fairly heavy.
Thanks.
Sonny
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 12:07:01 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> What did you use to cut the long miters on the top?
>
Thanks Robert.
Though I have a 12" RAS, it was loaded with junk on it. I used a Sawbuck.
https://www.google.com/search?q=delta+sawbuck+frame+and+trim+saw&rlz=1C1PQHA_enUS574US586&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj8u86TiNXLAhVDdz4KHWKpC4UQsAQIHA&biw=1280&bih=841
It had a sharp blade, for a change, so I was confident to get a good cut. Sometimes, with a duller blade, a cut may not be as perfect as I might like, especially with this old of saw. I don't have a CMS.
Sonny
Sonny wrote:
> Or put another way, he'll probably take credit for it....
>
> About a month ago, Leon replied to a post and supplied a link. On that link was a farm table project: http://www.augustoakwoodworks.com/home/videos/
>
> I've been taking care of Mom 4 days a week and, sometimes, have a little time to myself, while there. I had some salvaged cypress stashed in the back of the property, there, and decided to pull the nails, power wash the planks and build a similar farm table. I finished spraying it today. Just have to attach the top to the base. 9'5" long, 36" wide, 30" high. The top is a full 2"+ thick and fairly heavy.
>
> I hope the mitered corners stay intact, i.e., wood movement. I was aware of this possibility, when I decided to miter the corners.
>
> I thought spraying the bolts black was a good idea, as in the above farm table.
>
> A fun, neat project: https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/?
>
> Thanks to Leon for the timely link.
>
> Sonny
>
>
Beautiful! I love cypress. When we moved into this house It had a
cypress fence around the back yard. The boards were sitting on the
ground and the ends had rotted some and it looked awful. But then it
was about 25 years old. I replaced the boards and sawed off the
bottom foot or less, ran them through the planer and was amazed how
nice the boards looked. I made a lot of projects with that cypress.
--
GW Ross
If all you have is a hammer,
everything looks like a nail
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 6:14:17 AM UTC-5, G. Ross wrote:
> Beautiful! I love cypress. When we moved into this house It had a
> cypress fence around the back yard. The boards were sitting on the
> ground and the ends had rotted some and it looked awful. But then it
> was about 25 years old. I replaced the boards and sawed off the
> bottom foot or less, ran them through the planer and was amazed how
> nice the boards looked. I made a lot of projects with that cypress.
> If all you have is a hammer,
> everything looks like a nail
Thanks. I wish cypress wood was a little harder. Sometimes, it's a little soft for some prospective projects. If this table becomes abused/damaged, the cypress is usually easy to repair, because of its softness.
Sonny
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 10:45:59 AM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
> fairly heavy looks really heavy
>=20
> but it will withstand almost anything and looks built to last
> =20
> you have probably mentioned your favorite finish before but what
> did you use for the finish
I used (semi gloss) Varathane, for its durability. My favorite finish is l=
acquer, which I mostly use for my more refined projects or for (furniture) =
finishing or refinishing, generally.
For the more utilitarian projects, I find Varathane applies and dries fast =
and easy, hence, taking the easy way out of the finishing process. This ta=
ble (salvaged wood) has "defects", so being/having a perfect and prefectly =
finished surface is not required.... but the surface and finish is in very =
good shape.
Another difference with my table and the August Oak table: The guy install=
ed hex head lag screws, to attach each the feet and the upper brace board t=
o the upright base posts. I drilled a 9/16 hole through my feet and upper=
brace and through the 5X5 posts, in order to secure/tie the whole unit wit=
h 1/2" threaded rods, with (recessed) nuts & washers above and below. Tha=
t August Oak table is so big and heavy, I'm surprise the guy settle with us=
ing only lag bolts for that/those attachments.
Sonny
On 3/24/2016 3:27 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> I used one of those and it was not sturdy or accurate, and just seemed dangerous. I much preferred the old style miter sleds we made on site and used with our circular saws.
Certainly compared to today's SCMS's ... still, did a lot of trim work
in those days with it, designing acoustic environments for recording
studios and control rooms.
And, it was soooooo _portable_.
> When was that, Karl?
70's through the mid 90's.
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On 3/22/2016 10:40 AM, Sonny wrote:
> On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 7:37:03 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>
>>>
>> Nope it was not me! ;~) IIRC
>>
>> But your table looks better than the top link table.
>
> You're right. I stand corrected. This is where it came from:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/rec.woodworking/uRHHeu21wWw
>
> It had been a while since I had seen the post & link, so I couldn't
> remember, but I knew you had something to do with it, so you're still
> to blame.
Head hung low.....OK...;~)
On 3/25/2016 1:15 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 10:24:23 AM UTC-5, Swingman wrote:
>
>> Certainly compared to today's SCMS's ... still, did a lot of trim
>> work in those days with it, designing acoustic environments for
>> recording studios and control rooms.
>>
>> And, it was soooooo _portable_.
>>
>>> When was that, Karl?
>>
>> 70's through the mid 90's.
>
> Well, maybe the one I used for a bit was just out of adjustment. The
> one I used was under powered and had seen a lot of site and travel
> time.
>
> I got a 10" radial saw sometime in the early 80s, and wound up not
> liking it either. It was under powered and while I meant it for a
> site saw, it was a portable as a dead '53 Pontiac. So I decided to
> make it a "shop" saw, and liked it less. No matter what I did, that
> saw never stayed in perfect alignment for miters. I had to shim up
> the table every time I used it. 1/16" here and there, and the back
> fence would move and swell due to weather.
>
> So I could see how that would be attractive since there weren't
> really any other tools that did what that one did at the time.
>
> Robert
>
Actually in 1974, when I was still barely a teenager I designed and
built an apparatus much like the SawBuck, I had never seen a SawBuck up
to that point. I was unaware of them until I was shopping for my first
CMS, that was around the time that PC introduced the first laser miter
saw. I was trying to make a table to guide my circular saw over the
work to cut accurate 90's and miters much like a RAS.
On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 7:37:03 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
> >
> Nope it was not me! ;~) IIRC
>=20
> But your table looks better than the top link table.
You're right. I stand corrected. This is where it came from: https://grou=
ps.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/rec.woodworking/uRHHeu21wWw
It had been a while since I had seen the post & link, so I couldn't remembe=
r, but I knew you had something to do with it, so you're still to blame.
Back then, apparently I had saved the August Oak link, and referred to it j=
ust a month ago, when I cleaned up the cypress boards. I recall not knowin=
g what project to do with them, as I de-nailed and cleaned the boards. The=
thick planks (floor joists from a demolished house) limited my project cho=
ices.
Thanks.
Sonny
On 3/21/2016 8:31 PM, Sonny wrote:
> Or put another way, he'll probably take credit for it....
>
> About a month ago, Leon replied to a post and supplied a link. On that link was a farm table project: http://www.augustoakwoodworks.com/home/videos/
>
>
> A fun, neat project: https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/?
>
> Thanks to Leon for the timely link.
>
> Sonny
Very nice work. As Leon's agent I'll take care of the billing and
commissions. Please send me your credit card information so I can take
care of Leon's fee.
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 12:07:01 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> .... the trade off is that the wood is very stable and almost impervious =
to UV damage and rot. I like the fine grain of the wood you selected for y=
our top; it must have been a very old log.
>=20
Yes, the wood is old. Some of it had been hand hewn beams, then resawn fo=
r the floor joist use. That trestle board/cross piece has the hewn marks o=
n one side. On the other side, the resawn side, I tried to mimick the hewi=
ng marks with a hatchet.
I've taken good care of my sawbuck... and most of my other tools, also. I =
find it's a good saw and accurate for most small cuttings. For this sort o=
f large/thich cutting, I just take my time with the cut. Since I've owned =
the saw, I've had to tweak/adjusted the alignment only once and changed the=
brushes once. I bought it new 2-17-92.
Thanks again. Sometimes I get lucky with my workmanship, too.
Sonny
Sonny - another great looking, impressive piece. I have worked with cypres=
s before and agree it can be soft, but the trade off is that the wood is ve=
ry stable and almost impervious to UV damage and rot. I like the fine grai=
n of the wood you selected for your top; it must have been a very old log.
What did you use to cut the long miters on the top?
Oh yeah... I am fine with blaming stuff on Leon as needed.
:^)
Robert
On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 10:24:23 AM UTC-5, Swingman wrote:
=20
> Certainly compared to today's SCMS's ... still, did a lot of trim work=20
> in those days with it, designing acoustic environments for recording=20
> studios and control rooms.
>=20
> And, it was soooooo _portable_.
>=20
> > When was that, Karl?
>=20
> 70's through the mid 90's.
Well, maybe the one I used for a bit was just out of adjustment. The one I=
used was under powered and had seen a lot of site and travel time.
I got a 10" radial saw sometime in the early 80s, and wound up not liking i=
t either. It was under powered and while I meant it for a site saw, it was=
a portable as a dead '53 Pontiac. So I decided to make it a "shop" saw, a=
nd liked it less. No matter what I did, that saw never stayed in perfect a=
lignment for miters. I had to shim up the table every time I used it. 1/1=
6" here and there, and the back fence would move and swell due to weather. =
=20
So I could see how that would be attractive since there weren't really any =
other tools that did what that one did at the time.
Robert
On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 2:03:13 PM UTC-5, Swingman wrote:
> Hell, built two recording studios with one of those, among (many) other
> things, everything from framing to siding.
>
> Was as tickled shitless when I first bought it (used) as I was with my
> first Festool. ;)
Again, if I didn't know you...
I used one of those and it was not sturdy or accurate, and just seemed dangerous. I much preferred the old style miter sleds we made on site and used with our circular saws.
When was that, Karl?
Robert
On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 8:21:46 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Very nice work. As Leon's agent I'll take care of the billing and
> commissions. Please send me your credit card information so I can take
> care of Leon's fee.
Thanks Ed. I'll get back to you as soon as my CPA finalizes/finagles the figures.
Sonny
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:31:36 -0700 (PDT), Sonny <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Or put another way, he'll probably take credit for it....
>
>About a month ago, Leon replied to a post and supplied a link. On that link was a farm table project: http://www.augustoakwoodworks.com/home/videos/
>
>I've been taking care of Mom 4 days a week and, sometimes, have a little time to myself, while there. I had some salvaged cypress stashed in the back of the property, there, and decided to pull the nails, power wash the planks and build a similar farm table. I finished spraying it today. Just have to attach the top to the base. 9'5" long, 36" wide, 30" high. The top is a full 2"+ thick and fairly heavy.
>
>I hope the mitered corners stay intact, i.e., wood movement. I was aware of this possibility, when I decided to miter the corners.
>
>I thought spraying the bolts black was a good idea, as in the above farm table.
>
>A fun, neat project: https://www.flickr.com/photos/43836144@N04/?
>
>Thanks to Leon for the timely link.
>
>Sonny
>
Sonny, I'm impressed! To me pieces like that belong in a stone castle
somewhere.
Lifting stuff like that you'll end up out living us all. :)
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:31:36 -0700 (PDT)
Sonny <[email protected]> wrote:
> base. 9'5" long, 36" wide, 30" high. The top is a full 2"+ thick
> and fairly heavy.
fairly heavy looks really heavy
but it will withstand almost anything and looks built to last
you have probably mentioned your favorite finish before but what
did you use for the finish
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:27:19 -0700 (PDT)
Sonny <[email protected]> wrote:
> I used (semi gloss) Varathane, for its durability. My favorite
> finish is lacquer, which I mostly use for my more refined projects or
> for (furniture) finishing or refinishing, generally.
there is always varathane here
it must be forgiving because i use that for large surfaces and it
comes out well
> to secure/tie the whole unit with 1/2" threaded rods, with (recessed)
> nuts & washers above and below. That August Oak table is so big and
> heavy, I'm surprise the guy settle with using only lag bolts for
> that/those attachments.
have never liked lag bolts and am pretty sure i never used them
on purpose
but if i did use them i would also use glue on each bolt
the nuts and bolts are the way to go
On 3/23/2016 10:08 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> If you can get that accuracy out of that old "Sawbuck"
Hell, built two recording studios with one of those, among (many) other
things, everything from framing to siding.
Was as tickled shitless when I first bought it (used) as I was with my
first Festool. ;)
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