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28/01/2004 10:29 AM

Oak Staircase

I am currently in the process of purchasing a new home that will have
a basic carpeted staircase (With an oak rail and pickets) and would
like to change it to have oak stairs in the future.

Is it common or even economical to create an oak staircase by making
oak steps and capping them over the existing stair?


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[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to [email protected] (Anto) on 28/01/2004 10:29 AM

28/01/2004 7:03 PM

stairs810 asks:

>I am currently in the process of purchasing a new home that will have
>a basic carpeted staircase (With an oak rail and pickets) and would
>like to change it to have oak stairs in the future.
>
>Is it common or even economical to create an oak staircase by making
>oak steps and capping them over the existing stair?

Better you than me. If you plan to do it, see if there isn't some way you can
get the builder to make the rail and balusters (your pickets) removable. Then
you can lever off the old treads and replace with oak. Of course, if it's a
cased staircase (one or both ends of the stair set into the stringers) all bets
are off, as the cased ends and back create major exchange difficulties.

Capping any staircase involves cpping the first (bottom) stair, too, with
attendant problems when it increases the rise. The increase will be the
same...until the top step! Whoops.

Charlie Self
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tautology." Mark Twain's Notebook

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JD

"James D Kountz"

in reply to [email protected] (Anto) on 28/01/2004 10:29 AM

28/01/2004 7:48 PM

Where do you live? I just happen to have an entire oak staircase I took out
of a brand new house sitting here taking up space. Come get it, slip me say
$50 for my trouble and its yours. 8" rise, two steps to a landing then turns
left (as viewed going down). Fits an 8' high opening. Great shape too.

Jim


"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Anto) wrote:
> >I am currently in the process of purchasing a new home that will have
> >a basic carpeted staircase (With an oak rail and pickets) and would
> >like to change it to have oak stairs in the future.
> >
> >Is it common or even economical to create an oak staircase by making
> >oak steps and capping them over the existing stair?
>
> This is a BAD IDEA. Suppose there's an 8-inch rise between steps now, and
you
> add a 1-inch cap. Now the bottom step is 9 inches high, and the top step
only
> 7 inches. That will be awkward to navigate going *up*, but it's downright
> *dangerous* on the way *down*: the second step going down will be an inch
> deeper than the first, and this is enough of a difference to cause a
stumble.
> The top of a staircase is a BAD place to stumble. The same problem will
exist
> at the bottom as well, but it's not nearly so dangerous there.
>
> --
> Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
>
> How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for
Miss America?

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to [email protected] (Anto) on 28/01/2004 10:29 AM

28/01/2004 7:29 PM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Anto) wrote:
>I am currently in the process of purchasing a new home that will have
>a basic carpeted staircase (With an oak rail and pickets) and would
>like to change it to have oak stairs in the future.
>
>Is it common or even economical to create an oak staircase by making
>oak steps and capping them over the existing stair?

This is a BAD IDEA. Suppose there's an 8-inch rise between steps now, and you
add a 1-inch cap. Now the bottom step is 9 inches high, and the top step only
7 inches. That will be awkward to navigate going *up*, but it's downright
*dangerous* on the way *down*: the second step going down will be an inch
deeper than the first, and this is enough of a difference to cause a stumble.
The top of a staircase is a BAD place to stumble. The same problem will exist
at the bottom as well, but it's not nearly so dangerous there.

--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?

Ba

B a r r y B u r k e J r .

in reply to [email protected] (Anto) on 28/01/2004 10:29 AM

28/01/2004 11:07 PM

On 28 Jan 2004 19:03:35 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:

>
>Capping any staircase involves cpping the first (bottom) stair, too, with
>attendant problems when it increases the rise. The increase will be the
>same...until the top step! Whoops.

Unless you're also adding hardwood flooring to both floors, then the
net gain should stay the same.

Barry

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Andy Dingley

in reply to [email protected] (Anto) on 28/01/2004 10:29 AM

30/01/2004 10:40 PM

On 28 Jan 2004 10:29:56 -0800, [email protected] (Anto) wrote:

>Is it common or even economical to create an oak staircase by making
>oak steps and capping them over the existing stair?

No.

You can do it, and if you have any sort of half stair or landing at
the top, it's not even that difficult. You can absorb a height
variation, if you're already turning a corner etc. to break your
stride.

I'd stick with carpet though. I have plain wood stairs on my upper
staircase here and I hate the things - too damn slippery in bare feet.

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