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"Upscale"

11/01/2004 1:23 PM

Mortiser Info

Just as an aside from the mortiser preferences that I've seen here, how do
most of you cut the tenons to fit your mostises? Dado on a tablesaw vertical
on a tablesaw, chisel or some other method?


This topic has 11 replies

MO

"My Old Tools"

in reply to "Upscale" on 11/01/2004 1:23 PM

11/01/2004 11:36 AM

Old heavy Delta tenon jig with double blades and spacer. Cuts both cheeks
at once.

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Ross
www.myoldtools.com
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Just as an aside from the mortiser preferences that I've seen here, how do
> most of you cut the tenons to fit your mostises? Dado on a tablesaw
vertical
> on a tablesaw, chisel or some other method?
>
>

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "Upscale" on 11/01/2004 1:23 PM

11/01/2004 1:51 PM


"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message

> Just as an aside from the mortiser preferences that I've seen here, how do
> most of you cut the tenons to fit your mostises? Dado on a tablesaw
vertical
> on a tablesaw, chisel or some other method?

Same time I bought the mortiser, I bought the Delta tenon jig. So far I've
only cut one tenon, but it was a nice fit. I'm looking forward to doing the
rest of them.

I've done them on the bandsaw in the past but was not happy with the
results. I don't have a dado blade so I did not get to try that method.
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to "Upscale" on 11/01/2004 1:23 PM

11/01/2004 5:36 PM

On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 13:23:04 GMT, "Upscale" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Just as an aside from the mortiser preferences that I've seen here, how do
>most of you cut the tenons to fit your mostises? Dado on a tablesaw vertical
>on a tablesaw, chisel or some other method?
>

I built a tenoning jig for my PM66 that fits in the miter slot. It
even has a fine adjustment setting with wing nuts. This makes quick
work of the cheek cuts. If there is a lot of material to remove, I
use the bandsaw to cut away most of the waste to prevent a flying thin
piece of wood and to get a more accurate cut. I used to cut the
cheeks by doing multiple passes over the table saw blade. Cutting
and making adjustments to tenons is a lot easier than
cutting/adjusting the mortise.

Gs

"George"

in reply to "Upscale" on 11/01/2004 1:23 PM

11/01/2004 9:49 AM

Bandsaw cheeks, but I have the LN rabbet block to clean faces and the LV
shoulder to fudge those.

Dado also good for hogging away after shoulders are cut. Depends on how
lazy I am.

"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just as an aside from the mortiser preferences that I've seen here, how do
> most of you cut the tenons to fit your mostises? Dado on a tablesaw
vertical
> on a tablesaw, chisel or some other method?
>
>

jB

[email protected] (Bigpole)

in reply to "Upscale" on 11/01/2004 1:23 PM

11/01/2004 1:20 PM

I use a horizontal mounted router.

Ted

"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Just as an aside from the mortiser preferences that I've seen here, how do
> most of you cut the tenons to fit your mostises? Dado on a tablesaw vertical
> on a tablesaw, chisel or some other method?

TK

"Tom Kohlman"

in reply to "Upscale" on 11/01/2004 1:23 PM

11/01/2004 2:05 PM

Table saw with a stop, Delta tenon jig & bandsaw to form cheeks and
shoulders. The tenon jig is great and makes quick work.

"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> > Just as an aside from the mortiser preferences that I've seen here, how
do
> > most of you cut the tenons to fit your mostises? Dado on a tablesaw
> vertical
> > on a tablesaw, chisel or some other method?
>
> Same time I bought the mortiser, I bought the Delta tenon jig. So far
I've
> only cut one tenon, but it was a nice fit. I'm looking forward to doing
the
> rest of them.
>
> I've done them on the bandsaw in the past but was not happy with the
> results. I don't have a dado blade so I did not get to try that method.
> Ed
> [email protected]
> http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
>
>

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "Upscale" on 11/01/2004 1:23 PM

11/01/2004 9:27 AM

In the last step on cutting tenons in slats, and in the likely event someone
in the future will be dense enough to snug a dado blade (or any blade for
that matter) against a table saw fence, be sure to use a "sacrificial fence"
attached to your table saw fence.


"Swingman" wrote in message

> Tenons for the slats for Misssion style furniture I usually cut with a
dado
> set, a miter guage, and the table saw fence as a stop. You do yourself an
> immense favor if you design the mortises and tenons for slats so that one
> height setting of the dado set cuts all four sides of the slat tenons.
>
> HTH ...
>
> --
> www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 1/02/04

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "Upscale" on 11/01/2004 1:23 PM

11/01/2004 9:18 AM

"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just as an aside from the mortiser preferences that I've seen here, how do
> most of you cut the tenons to fit your mostises? Dado on a tablesaw
vertical
> on a tablesaw, chisel or some other method?

I use power tools (table saw, with fence and Delta tenon jig, and a bandsaw
with fence) to cut the majority of my tenons. While there are many ways to
accomplish the same thing, the following is my preferred methodology:

I cut mortises first, then cut tenons.

The most important part in cutting tenons with power tools is "batch
cutting". IOW, cut ALL parts which require the same operation using the same
saw blade and fence stop settings BEFORE resetting equipment and fence and
going on to the next operation. This is especially important when using the
"fence as a stop" for cutting the shoulders.

Order of cut, depending upon type of tenon:

Delta table saw tenon jig to batch cut the cheeks on all parts.

Note: If you use a jig like the Delat, ADJUST it repeatedly, on scraps of
the _same_ thickness, to get a precise fitting tenon for the width of the
mortises which you previously cut. Most of these jigs/tools are infinitely
adjustable and will cut a tenon of a precise width, so take the time to get
the precision it will give you, otherwise you will be chiseling, planing,
sanding and otherwise wasting time fitting each tenon into its respective
mortise.

Table saw with lowered table blade to cut shoulders. use a miter gage and
table saw fence as stop (cut any short shoulders, generally with a required
blade height change, BEFORE moving the table saw fence!)

Bandsaw, with fence, to cut excess material off any short shoulders or
haunches. This last operation can often be done with the tenon jig, but is
faster setup on the bandsaw.

Fit tenons into their respective mortises "hand tight" ... if you have to
pound them with a deadblow, they are too tight.

Sometimes it is necessary to adjust the length of a tenon for the shoulder
to fit precisely against the leg/stile. Do this with a hand saw, bandsaw, or
chop saw ... but NEVER recut a shoulder after this operation. :)

Tenons for the slats for Misssion style furniture I usually cut with a dado
set, a miter guage, and the table saw fence as a stop. You do yourself an
immense favor if you design the mortises and tenons for slats so that one
height setting of the dado set cuts all four sides of the slat tenons.

HTH ...

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 1/02/04



AB

"Alan Bierbaum"

in reply to "Upscale" on 11/01/2004 1:23 PM

11/01/2004 9:22 AM

If it fits in my delta tenon jig; I use that. Otherwise I use a dado blade
on the table saw; or for just one or two; I hand cut. For furniture sized
items; I do shoulder cuts (4) [may need two setups], then cheek cuts with
miter gage and no inset (the pieces cut off drop down into the saw and do
not bounce around the shop). Use whatever method or sequence that works for
you.

--
Alan Bierbaum

Web Site: http://www.calanb.com
Recent Project Page: http://www.calanb.com/recent.html
Workbench project: http://www.calanb.com/wbench.html


"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just as an aside from the mortiser preferences that I've seen here, how do
> most of you cut the tenons to fit your mostises? Dado on a tablesaw
vertical
> on a tablesaw, chisel or some other method?
>
>

AB

"Alan Bierbaum"

in reply to "Upscale" on 11/01/2004 1:23 PM

11/01/2004 10:23 AM

Oops, reverse shoulder and cheek in prior post.

--
Alan Bierbaum

Web Site: http://www.calanb.com
Recent Project Page: http://www.calanb.com/recent.html
Workbench project: http://www.calanb.com/wbench.html


"Alan Bierbaum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> If it fits in my delta tenon jig; I use that. Otherwise I use a dado
blade
> on the table saw; or for just one or two; I hand cut. For furniture sized
> items; I do shoulder cuts (4) [may need two setups], then cheek cuts with
> miter gage and no inset (the pieces cut off drop down into the saw and do
> not bounce around the shop). Use whatever method or sequence that works
for
> you.
>
> --
> Alan Bierbaum
>

Rr

"Rumpty"

in reply to "Upscale" on 11/01/2004 1:23 PM

11/01/2004 9:16 AM

Radial Arm Saw with dado head, and band saw if only a few are being cut.

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Rumpty

Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start

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"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just as an aside from the mortiser preferences that I've seen here, how do
> most of you cut the tenons to fit your mostises? Dado on a tablesaw
vertical
> on a tablesaw, chisel or some other method?
>
>


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